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    Re: NAV-L vs. Google NavList
    From: Robert Gainer
    Date: 2006 Apr 4, 18:32 -0400

    I enjoy the list and find the archive great reading.  In fact I wish I had a 
    copy of the archive on my laptop so that I could read it at home. I live on 
    my boat in the summertime and don?t have Internet after I leave work. Do you 
    have the archive in a way that you can send me a copy? How do you search it? 
    Do you use a database program setup as a front end?
    Robert Gainer
    > From: Dan Allen 
    > Date: 2006/04/04 Tue PM 05:37:44 EDT
    > Subject: NAV-L vs. Google NavList
    > (* Reposted to NAV-L *)
    > On 4 Apr 2006, at 10:27 AM, George Huxtable wrote:
    > > With Frank in charge, I fear it would be like playing a game of
    > > street football, when the other side owns the ball.
    > >
    > > I am going to need more persuading, before venturing into this new
    > > lifeboat, until certain that the old familiar vessel is actually
    > > sinking, not just suffering a temporary breakdown.
    > I understand your concern George.  If NAV-L has just had a minor
    > problem and will return to reliable service, I do not know if we
    > really need a Google Group.
    > However, if NAV-L support is not long for this world, then we do need
    > to jump ship to something that will last into the future.
    > I think Frank did the prudent thing: he created a list to get it
    > going as a backup.  He took action.  I like that about Frank.  If NAV-
    > L was down, how was Frank going to bring it up for discussion on the
    > list?  He couldn't.  But he could get something else going, which he
    > accomplished.
    > The hard question is this: is NAV-L under Dan Hogan's excellent care
    > finished?  If so, I say we all move to the Google NavList group and
    > move on.  However, I do not know if this is the case or not.  It does
    > appear that I have been getting NAV-L messages the past couple of
    > days, but I think the real issue is the list archives.
    > It seems to me the decision revolves around the list archives.  I
    > personally never use the list archives because I have my own copy of
    > every mail since July of 1997.  I just search through it all on my
    > own machine.  My archive is local and does not depend upon a website.
    > Of course new members need the list archives, as do many others.  If
    > the NAV-L list archive is gone for good, perhaps a move to Google's
    > group should happen.  On April 1st, 2006 Dan Hogan wrote on NAV-L:
    > "Well I don't know of any servers that will accept our archives.  So
    > I am open to suggestions."
    > Frank tried Google Groups as a proof of concept.  Most (all?) of us
    > have never created a group or tried to get one going.  I want to
    > thank Frank Reed for taking the initiative and his time to provide a
    > possible solution.  Now we need to determine if we should all move to
    > it and embrace it and move forward, or someone else should propose a
    > different solution - and do the work of getting that solution going.
    > Until somebody else can provide as much as Frank has provided, I do
    > not think there is much to recommend hanging on to the NAV-L list,
    > and I think there is a lot to recommend us moving to the NavList on
    > Google Groups.
    > Comments?  Proposals?  Solutions?  They are all welcomed of course.
    > Dan Allen

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