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    Re: NAV-L vs. Google NavList
    From: Dan Hogan
    Date: 2006 Apr 4, 15:38 -0700

    Robert:
    
    No, sorry I don't have a back-up archive.
    
    Dan
    
    
    > [Original Message]
    > From: Robert Gainer 
    > To: 
    > Date: 4/4/2006 3:33:49 PM
    > Subject: Re: NAV-L vs. Google NavList
    >
    > Dan,
    > I enjoy the list and find the archive great reading.  In fact I wish I
    had a copy of the archive on my laptop so that I could read it at home. I
    live on my boat in the summertime and don?t have Internet after I leave
    work. Do you have the archive in a way that you can send me a copy? How do
    you search it? Do you use a database program setup as a front end?
    > Thanks,
    > Robert Gainer
    >
    > >
    > > From: Dan Allen 
    > > Date: 2006/04/04 Tue PM 05:37:44 EDT
    > > To: NAVIGATION-L{at}LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM
    > > Subject: NAV-L vs. Google NavList
    > >
    > > (* Reposted to NAV-L *)
    > >
    > > On 4 Apr 2006, at 10:27 AM, George Huxtable wrote:
    > >
    > > > With Frank in charge, I fear it would be like playing a game of
    > > > street football, when the other side owns the ball.
    > > >
    > > > I am going to need more persuading, before venturing into this new
    > > > lifeboat, until certain that the old familiar vessel is actually
    > > > sinking, not just suffering a temporary breakdown.
    > >
    > > I understand your concern George.  If NAV-L has just had a minor
    > > problem and will return to reliable service, I do not know if we
    > > really need a Google Group.
    > >
    > > However, if NAV-L support is not long for this world, then we do need
    > > to jump ship to something that will last into the future.
    > >
    > > I think Frank did the prudent thing: he created a list to get it
    > > going as a backup.  He took action.  I like that about Frank.  If NAV-
    > > L was down, how was Frank going to bring it up for discussion on the
    > > list?  He couldn't.  But he could get something else going, which he
    > > accomplished.
    > >
    > > The hard question is this: is NAV-L under Dan Hogan's excellent care
    > > finished?  If so, I say we all move to the Google NavList group and
    > > move on.  However, I do not know if this is the case or not.  It does
    > > appear that I have been getting NAV-L messages the past couple of
    > > days, but I think the real issue is the list archives.
    > >
    > > It seems to me the decision revolves around the list archives.  I
    > > personally never use the list archives because I have my own copy of
    > > every mail since July of 1997.  I just search through it all on my
    > > own machine.  My archive is local and does not depend upon a website.
    > >
    > > Of course new members need the list archives, as do many others.  If
    > > the NAV-L list archive is gone for good, perhaps a move to Google's
    > > group should happen.  On April 1st, 2006 Dan Hogan wrote on NAV-L:
    > >
    > > "Well I don't know of any servers that will accept our archives.  So
    > > I am open to suggestions."
    > >
    > > Frank tried Google Groups as a proof of concept.  Most (all?) of us
    > > have never created a group or tried to get one going.  I want to
    > > thank Frank Reed for taking the initiative and his time to provide a
    > > possible solution.  Now we need to determine if we should all move to
    > > it and embrace it and move forward, or someone else should propose a
    > > different solution - and do the work of getting that solution going.
    > > Until somebody else can provide as much as Frank has provided, I do
    > > not think there is much to recommend hanging on to the NAV-L list,
    > > and I think there is a lot to recommend us moving to the NavList on
    > > Google Groups.
    > >
    > > Comments?  Proposals?  Solutions?  They are all welcomed of course.
    > >
    > > Dan Allen
    > >
    
    
    

       
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