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Re: transit of venus 1769
From: Frank Reed
Date: 2006 May 27, 21:33 -0500
C.A. you wrote:
"Also Nevil Maskelyne began printing an almanac in 1767 along with lunar
tables in 1767, so the precise value of the AU was not required to compile
fairly accurate ephemerides at that time. "
Yep. Even if the solar parallax had been wrong by 50%, it would have had no
significant effect on practical navigation. Such a large solar parallax error
would produce an error no greater than about 450 feet in a noon latitude
calculation (or any other line of position). The error in the longitude deduced
from a lunar distance observation using such an incorrect value of the solar
parallax would never be greater than about 2.5 miles. And of course the real
uncertainty in the solar parallax was closer to 10% in that era, so divide
those maximum errors by five.
Since you're reading about Cook and parallax, you might get a kick out of a
BBC radio program which I posted about a while ago. Here's the link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/inourtime_20060504.shtml
You can listen to it online or download it. It's fairly light and there's
nothing profound in it, but I enjoyed listening to it while driving through
Pennsylvania recently.
I would also recommend Patrick O'Brian's biography of Joseph Banks. Banks
was the leader of the team's botanical contingent, and he was later President
of the Royal Society. Banks became an important figure on the Board of
Longitude, and he was a big advocate of the movement to colonize Australia with
convicts. It's interesting to note that Joseph Banks was the "media hero" of
Cook's transit of Venus expedition when they returned to England while Cook was
counted as little more than a bus driver. That perception soon changed...
And you wrote:
"To respond to Frank Reed, I seem to recall that the transit was not
visible from my location near Los Angeles, California but I cannot swear to it.
Dont know it the next transit will be visible from here either. "
You're right. The 2004 transit was not visible in California. In
Connecticut, we had to be up at sunrise to see just the second half of it. If you're
still in LA in 2012, you'll have good seats. You'll see the beginning of the
transit clearly, and you'll see the Sun setting over the Pacific with Venus
still in transit. That should make an impressive sight.
-FER
http://www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars
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From: Frank Reed
Date: 2006 May 27, 21:33 -0500
C.A. you wrote:
"Also Nevil Maskelyne began printing an almanac in 1767 along with lunar
tables in 1767, so the precise value of the AU was not required to compile
fairly accurate ephemerides at that time. "
Yep. Even if the solar parallax had been wrong by 50%, it would have had no
significant effect on practical navigation. Such a large solar parallax error
would produce an error no greater than about 450 feet in a noon latitude
calculation (or any other line of position). The error in the longitude deduced
from a lunar distance observation using such an incorrect value of the solar
parallax would never be greater than about 2.5 miles. And of course the real
uncertainty in the solar parallax was closer to 10% in that era, so divide
those maximum errors by five.
Since you're reading about Cook and parallax, you might get a kick out of a
BBC radio program which I posted about a while ago. Here's the link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/inourtime_20060504.shtml
You can listen to it online or download it. It's fairly light and there's
nothing profound in it, but I enjoyed listening to it while driving through
Pennsylvania recently.
I would also recommend Patrick O'Brian's biography of Joseph Banks. Banks
was the leader of the team's botanical contingent, and he was later President
of the Royal Society. Banks became an important figure on the Board of
Longitude, and he was a big advocate of the movement to colonize Australia with
convicts. It's interesting to note that Joseph Banks was the "media hero" of
Cook's transit of Venus expedition when they returned to England while Cook was
counted as little more than a bus driver. That perception soon changed...
And you wrote:
"To respond to Frank Reed, I seem to recall that the transit was not
visible from my location near Los Angeles, California but I cannot swear to it.
Dont know it the next transit will be visible from here either. "
You're right. The 2004 transit was not visible in California. In
Connecticut, we had to be up at sunrise to see just the second half of it. If you're
still in LA in 2012, you'll have good seats. You'll see the beginning of the
transit clearly, and you'll see the Sun setting over the Pacific with Venus
still in transit. That should make an impressive sight.
-FER
http://www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars
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