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    Re: suggestion for a satisfactory celnav narrative
    From: Courtney Thomas
    Date: 2005 Jun 3, 16:45 -0500

    Thank you Robert.
    
    Maybe a good first step might be... starting a nomination process for
    project coordinator since, happily, a number of people now have
    volunteered in one way or another.
    
    Appreciatively,
    Courtney
    
    
    
    On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 15:08, Robert Gainer wrote:
    > I think the project is worth doing, but I dont have the skill set required
    > to help much with the knowledge base. I will however contribute server space
    > and setup help if that will get this started. I am already contributing
    > server space to Dan Hogan and his Nav-L web page.
    >
    > Maybe this can all be combined into one project on the Nav-L page. Jim
    > Thompson has what I think is an excellent website in the form of study notes
    > that he has posted, maybe that can be the start of the text, or maybe that
    > can be the text and it may stay at his site and links can be established to
    > his work at other sites such as the Nav-L page. All of that is of course up
    > to Jim Thompson and Dan Hogan.
    >
    > I am open to suggestions as to how this should be pursued, I am willing to
    > spend some time, and money to accomplish what is decided by the consensus of
    > the group.
    > Robert Gainer
    >
    >
    > >From: John Kabel 
    > >Reply-To: Navigation Mailing List 
    > >To: NAVIGATION-L{at}LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM
    > >Subject: Re: suggestion for a satisfactory celnav narrative
    > >Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:56:19 -0400
    > >
    > >As another cynic, but still full of energy, I suggested the Wikipedia
    > >approach in an e-mail a few days ago.  That is one way I am prepared to
    > >contribute.  The other way would be an effort supported on a dedicated
    > >server that this group can work with.  I am not competent to set up a
    > >multi-
    > >authored document on a server, my own or anyone else's.  If someone were to
    > >set it up, and identify to the group the ground rules and the access
    > >mechanism, I would again contribute what I could.  I think the Wiki type of
    > >software could be used for that.  Does the foregoing reduce me to half a
    > >cycnic??
    > >
    > >John Kabel, SN
    > >London, Ontario
    > >
    > > > Andrew Corl wrote-
    > > >
    > > > >For Courtney, I am raising my hand to help with this.  Don't know what
    > >I
    > > > >can do but here is a list of techniques I feel should be in the manual:
    > > > >Dead Reckoning Latitude by Noon Sun Longitude using a shortwave radio
    > >and
    > > > >the noon sun Sextant operation and how to determine the elevation above
    > >the
    > > > >horizon of the sun, moon, star, and planet Sight reduction using H.O.
    > >249 -
    > > > >method I am presently learning Sight reduction doing all the math (the
    > > > >"apex of celestial navigation" according to Frank)
    > > >
    > > > As a world-weary old cynic, my opinion is that any offer, saying "this
    > >is
    > > > how I think it should be done, and I'm prepared to contribute" is worth
    > >at
    > > > least 10 proposals of "this is how I think it should be done, but by
    > >someone
    > > > else, not by me". So Andrew's suggestions are indeed useful.
    > > >
    > > > No doubt, he expected a bit of nitpicking about his choice of topics,
    > >and I
    > > > am happy to provide it. It relates to his suggested topic- "Longitude
    > >using
    > > > a shortwave radio and the noon sun"
    > > >
    > > > Although proposals for timing the moment of noon, by observing the Sun
    > > > around noon, reappear on this list at regrettably regular intervals, the
    > > > fact remains that noon is the worst possible moment for doing that job.
    > > > Although it's possible to make a crude assessment of the moment-of-noon
    > >by
    > > > making an extended set of observations, before noon and after, the only
    > >way
    > > > to get a PRECISE value of time-by-the-Sun (and hence longitude) is to do
    > >so
    > > > at a time WELL AWAY from noon, so that the Sun is rising and falling at
    > >a
    > > > measurable rate. If Andrew were to rephrase his suggestion to read
    > >instead-
    > > > "Longitude using a shortwave radio and a time-sight of the Sun", then I,
    > >for
    > > > one, would be happy.
    > > >
    > > > George.
    > > >
    > > > ================================================================
    > > > contact George Huxtable by email at george---.u-net.com, by phone
    > >at
    > > > 01865 820222 (from outside UK, +44 1865 820222), or by mail at 1 Sandy
    > >Lane,
    > > > Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.
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