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Re: The shipwreck of Admiral Shovell
From: Frank Reed
Date: 2009 Jul 6, 20:59 -0700
From: Frank Reed
Date: 2009 Jul 6, 20:59 -0700
Geoff, you wrote: "Can anyone shed any light on this - or is it another popularized myth, like the hanged seaman story? Perhaps the act of heaving-to to take soundings was interpreted by non-seafaring authors as evidence of the need for a chat!" I don't think there's any hard evidence of such a discussion but it would have been an ordinary thing to do. There's a comment somewhere in the writings of Pepys where he is amazed by the amount of discussion among a vessel's officers and their confusion over position whenever a vessel is about to enter the English Channel. He was writing some years before that shipwreck. There were "Captains" to spare aboard the Association that night. They would have discussed their estimates of position. As for the hanged seaman, the hanging emerged from tales told in the Scillies in the early 19th century. Notes from shortly after the shipwreck tell a story of a common sailor doubting the navigation who was ridiculed but not hanged. In the earliest versions of the story, this sailor is said to have smelled something distinct (seaweed fires?) that informed him that the fleet was perilously close to the Scillies. Sailing by the smell of land would today be considered an "indigenous" method of navigation, not something that western Europeans would use, but this was 300 years ago, and I don't think it's implausible. By the end of the 19th century, this aspect of th story was changed to a common sailor "keeping his own account". I suspect this was the influence of nineteenth century scientific navigation having almost completely replaced the old "indigenous" techniques. Of course, it's highly unlikely that he could have kept his own account. -FER --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Navigation List archive: www.fer3.com/arc To post, email NavList@fer3.com To , email NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---