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    Re: missing Nav-L messages
    From: George Huxtable
    Date: 2006 Apr 7, 18:28 +0100

    I had written-
    | > Nor did a message enthreaded "compass card with more than 360
    | degrees". That has got to Lu Abel, because I can read his reply, but
    | > not (yet) to me.
    | >
    | > There's something seriously amiss, but Dan seems reluctant to accept
    | >
    | that, and prefers to blame list members and their ISPs. It
    | > calls for some investigation.
    And Paul Hirose replied-
    | Why not appoint yourself Chief Investigator? Ask for volunteers to
    | report the number of Nav-L messages they receive each UTC day. I'd be
    | willing to do that much. With inputs from several others you should get
    | some useful data. A pattern may emerge.
    | Regarding delayed messages -- their headers may reveal where the delay
    | is occurring. To see a raw header in Outlook Express, click File,
    | Properties, Details tab. Note that each machine in the transmission
    | chain adds its information on top, so to read the timestamps in
    | chronological order, start at the Date field and work upward.
    That's exactly what I had tried to do, on 5 April, the day before Paul wrote. 
    I had extracted the header information from a post
    sent early in December, received early April, which showed its long history, 
    and included that header as text in a message to the
    That message, it seems, wasn't copied back to Paul, or to me. Was it received 
    by anyone? So I sent it again, this morning.
    Today, Dan Hogan copied to me a message which had been sent to him (I presume 
    by the webkahuna host). As far as I understand it, it
    notifies him of a message just sent to Nav-l by me, identified as a "possible 
    delivery error notice", because the body of the
    mailing contains a "field pointing to the list". If both postings have been 
    intercepted for that reason, it may explain why neither
    message to the list got posted up.
    Well, that copied header certainly did contain "fields pointing to the list", 
    which may make it impossible to include a copy of such
    a header in the body of a message to the list. Sorry about that. I can send it 
    directly to Paul's own email address, and to anyone
    else that would like to see it.
    Anyway, by a roundabout route, that message with the header has now got to Dan 
    Hogan, which was the real intention. I hope Dan can
    let us know what that header tells him, or what comments about it the webkahuna host will provide.
    contact George Huxtable at george@huxtable.u-net.com
    or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222)
    or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.

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