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    Re: longitude around noon (a twist)
    From: Irv Haworth
    Date: 2008 Jun 03, 11:00 -0700

    Hi
    Just joined into this topic
    IF I understand your question ,the term is called "Equal  Altitudes at
    Noon". This is NOT a fix per se but an E.P. (estimated position).
    
    Haste make  waste and I just hope that I've properly grasped your question.
    
    himself
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: NavList@fer3.com [mailto:NavList@fer3.com] On Behalf
    Of frankreed@HistoricalAtlas.net
    Sent: June 3, 2008 8:42 AM
    To: NavList@fer3.com
    Subject: [NavList 5255] longitude around noon (a twist)
    
    
    I made one last try at convincing George Kaplan (a name some of you know) to
    join us in Mystic this week, but alas, it's not in the cards.
    
    While I was at it, I chatted in my email a bit about longitude around noon
    and asked him this:
     "Which leads to a question: is there an established name in the literature,
    or even in your own jargon, for a fix resulting from a series of ten or
    twelve sights taken over a relatively short period of time? I've been
    calling it a "rapid-fire fix". Do you know another name?"
    
    His reply:
     "I don't know of a special name.  You're correct, of course, if you can get
    a bunch of sights on either side of noon, you can get good enough geometry
    to get a 2-D position.  It works with the LOPs, too, in that they provide a
    good spread of azimuth around then.  There is a slight catch, however, and
    that is, the higher the Sun is in the sky (and therefore the more rapid the
    altitude and azimuth change near noon) the more you have to worry about the
    curvature of the LOPs.  In some near-degenerate cases (sun within several
    degrees of the zenith), the usual straight-line plotting -- or math that
    assumes straight-line LOPs -- may not provide the right fix."
    
    That's a good point about sights very close to the zenith. I had mentioned
    previously on the list that there may be a special case when the Sun is
    close to the zenith. I still haven't thought through whether it really
    screws up the graphical technique or merely requires more stringent rules
    for its application.
    
     -FER
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
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