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    Re: automatic celestial navigation
    From: Richard B. Langley
    Date: 2007 Dec 7, 09:27 -0400

    Photographing satellites against background stars was developed as a geodetic
    positioning technique in the 1960s. See
    , an excerpt from the venerable
    Guide to GPS Positioning  (Warning: 106 MB)
    for a brief overview of this early satellite positioning technique.
    -- Richard Langley
       Professor of Geodesy and Precision Navigation
    
    On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 frankreed@historicalatlas.net wrote:
    
    >
    >Apologies for drifting off-topic here...
    >
    >There's another way to do automatic navigation: you let the satellite find
    >YOU. Ships at sea are easy to detect. A handful of satellites can track
    >every vessel on the face of the Earth assuming they're emitting some radio
    >noise (the electrical systems of any modern ship's engine produce enough
    >radio noise). Then when you need your position, you call up the satellite
    >and ask. And needless to say, you can ask it to tell you where your
    >"friends" are, too. There have been reports of such systems in actual use
    >for years. There are sets of satellites, supposedly operated by the US NRO,
    >that travel together in small groups. It's a bit eery: you can see three
    >little "stars" gliding across the sky together in a triangle a few degrees
    >across if you know where and when to look (google "NOSS trios").
    >
    >Speaking of satellites, how about using them for small-craft navigation?
    >And, no, not GPS satellites. I'm talking about visual observations of low
    >orbit satellites. Satellite positions are as predictable as the Moon's, as
    >long as you avoid objects which maneuver frequently, like the International
    >Space Station. And if using a computer isn't cheating, then you can get a
    >line of position by observing a satellite's position in the sky (I'm
    >picturing tracking it with binoculars and looking for close approaches to
    >moderately bright stars). If I observe a satellite that's 500 nautical miles
    >above me, and if I can get its position relative to some star accurate to a
    >tenth of a degree, which should be possible, then I can get a line of
    >position accurate to about 1 nautical mile. If I have a rough DR position to
    >start with, there shouldn't be any problem with mistaken satellite
    >identities.
    >
    > -FER
    >
    >>
    >
    
    
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     Richard B. Langley                            E-mail: lang@unb.ca
     Geodetic Research Laboratory                  Web: http://www.unb.ca/GGE/
     Dept. of Geodesy and Geomatics Engineering    Phone:    +1 506 453-5142
     University of New Brunswick                   Fax:      +1 506 453-4943
     Fredericton, N.B., Canada  E3B 5A3
         Fredericton?  Where's that?  See: http://www.city.fredericton.nb.ca/
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