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    Re: accurate sextant
    From: Fred Hebard
    Date: 2008 Feb 22, 17:59 -0500

    Sorry Alex.  I couldn't resist saying something.  The Russian
    telescope is probably better than the upright prism binocs.  I was
    going to make some joke with Russians as the butt of the joke about
    the inverting aspect, but thought it might offend someone, so said,
    essentially, nothing instead.  Kind of like Polish jokes, such as,
    'How many Poles does it take to screw in a lightbulb?  Answer,
    'Three, one to hold the lightbulb and two to turn the ladder.'  But
    such jokes are no longer allowed, unfortunately, in polite society.
    
    Fred
    
    On Feb 22, 2008, at 2:56 PM, Alexandre E Eremenko wrote:
    
    >
    >
    > Dear Fred,
    >
    > On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Fred Hebard wrote:
    >
    >> I'm mostly resisting any national comparison jokes here.
    >
    > I did not understand this remark. Would you explain,
    > perhaps off-the-list?
    >
    > Alex.
    >
    >> On Feb 22, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Alexandre E Eremenko wrote:
    >>> George,
    >>>
    >>>> What struck me was its rather strange
    >>>> (to me) construction, in that the
    >>>> index arm swings on the "wrong" side of the frame;
    >>>
    >>> This is not exactly so. The arm moves INSIDE the frame.
    >>> If you look carefully you see that the frame has
    >>> a complicated shape which allows the arm to move
    >>> inside. The handle is attached to the
    >>> "other part of the frame", behind
    >>> the arm. Of course you can call the part of the
    >>> frame behind the arm a bridge, but it is an integral
    >>> part of the frame. The purpose of this
    >>> arrangement is to protect the arm.
    >>>
    >>> Freiberger has similar construction of the frame.
    >>> In general Freiberger looks very similar, except
    >>> it does not have the inverting scope and does not
    >>> have the scale magnifier/illumination device.
    >>>
    >>>> I ask those familiar with this
    >>>> instrument whether they see any
    >>>> advantage in the straight-through, inverting,
    >>>> 6x telescope, compared with an
    >>>> equivalent, non-inverting, prismatic ocular
    >>>> of similar power and
    >>>> light-grasp? Presumably,
    >>>> the prismatic would be a bit heavier; are there
    >>>> other differences?
    >>>
    >>> It is very much lighter, and lets more light through.
    >>> In this telescope, the light passes through only two lenses.
    >>> All astronomical telescopes-refractors are made this way,
    >>> and the reason is to minimize the loss of light.
    >>> So the designers of this telescope surely had the
    >>> same reason.
    >>> In addition, this is the only "modern" sextant telescope
    >>> that has wires. Wires are handy for many adjustments,
    >>> and make it easier to hold the object in the center of
    >>> the field.
    >>>
    >>> In the old days (until approx. 1940-s) many sextants had
    >>> inverting scopes with wires. However the SNO scope has
    >>> a substantial advantage in comparison with these old
    >>> scopes: much larger field of view, and much larger
    >>> diameter of the objective lens. Again this lets more
    >>> light through.
    >>>
    >>> Alex.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>
    >
    >
    > >
    
    
    
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