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    Re: Wisconsin Maritime Museum
    From: Frank Reed
    Date: 2009 Nov 12, 22:14 -0800

    Gary, you wrote:
    "When you were in Charleston you apparently missed visiting the most historic 
    submarine of all, the CSS Hunley which was the first submarine to sink an 
    enemy ship, the USS Housatonic in 1864. I saw it last year."
    Depends on how one defines 'most historic submarine of all' :-). Each of the 
    groups with a museum sub would happily tell you that their own sub is 'the 
    most'. For example, the folks in Baltimore can tell you that USS Torsk has 
    the most dives of any submarines at over 11,000. Torsk was a training sub in 
    the 1960s so it spent the better part of every day bobbing up and down south 
    of Block Island. That's a rather weak claim to the title, of course, but I 
    think I would count USS Nautilus as the most historic. Hunley has an 
    excellent claim to the title, too, but right now I'm concentrating on 
    full-size submarines, submarines that can be boarded. I'm really looking 
    forward to seeing Hunley when the chemical processes are done, and it's ready 
    for display. I understand that may take several more years. A good excuse for 
    another drive down the Carolina coast!
    And you wrote:
    "The Silversides was forced to leave Navy Pier when the its supporting group 
    couldn't raise the money to pay the dockage fees."
    You're right of course. I was thinking of USS Croaker. That sub was taken away 
    from its "owners". The Navy threatened to take Silversides away rather than 
    see it moved to Muskegon but they relented. The Navy can pull the plug on any 
    museum's ownership if they're dissatisfied. It's a shame Silversides left 
    Navy Pier. It would have been seen by thousands of visitors a day instead of 
    just dozens.
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