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    Re: What can I do?
    From: Alexandre Eremenko
    Date: 2006 May 23, 11:20 -0400

    You wrote:
    > One, the new one is more public and found by people just starting
    > out. It is easer to find that list because it sits were people are >
    > looking
    > for the list, on a search engine that encourages people to search for
    > there hobbies or interests.
    And you also wrote:
    > The old list is,....
    >  It is not marketed and is hard to find unless you have
    > had some exposure to the subject already.
    This contradicts my experience.
    Because the address of the "new list" is impossible to keep in
    one's memory or to type without mistake,
    I tried several times searching it through Google.
    It is not trivial.
    Google finds our old list instead:-)
     The beginner tends not to be on
    > this list. The down side to this is that the list depends for its
    > personality on just a few people and it can disappear like any low volume
    > population with a minor change to the environment. Sounds like a microcosm
    > of the real word doesn?t it.
    > I have joined the other list and still I find things on this one and I
    > can?t give you a sound rational reason to resist the change. Frank has
    > made a spam proof identity for me on the new list and spam was my only
    > articulated reason to not join the new list. At this point I think the end
    > is in sight and I am just hanging out to see who has the last word on the
    > old list and then turn out the lights when I leave. It has become a group
    > watching a building, a landmark building, burn to the ground and wondering
    > why the fire department couldn?t save it.
    > Good luck and all the best,
    > Robert Gainer
    >> From: Philip Lange 
    >> Date: 2006/05/21 Sun PM 07:14:54 EDT
    >> Subject: Re: What can I do?
    >> Am I missing something here?
    >> I thought the Navigation list was the people who participated in it.
    >> As I see it we people are  simply using a different server and address,
    >> which of course necessitates a modification to the lists name. The
    >> reason,
    >> if I understand it correctly, is because of  reliability issues that
    >> could
    >> not be corrected with the original server.  If I am in error, please
    >> explain to me what is going out of existence, and why should try to save
    >> what was demonstrably shown to be broken and unable to be repaired.
    >> And also please tell me, if some one steps in to save it,  the benefit
    >> of
    >> having two Nav lists.
    >> It would appear to me that some are confusing the cart for the cargo.
    >> But
    >> then I could be wrong.
    >> Philip
    >> At 06:26 PM 5/21/2006, Peter Fogg wrote:
    >> > > Alexandre wrote:
    >> > > Speaking of the Nav-L list, what can I do but to enjoy
    >> > > the last days of its existence?
    >> > > Unfortunately I can do nothing to save it.
    >> >
    >> >All you would have to do is take on the nominal manager's role. Can't
    >> be
    >> >harder than becoming a professor of mathematics. GregR has already
    >> offered
    >> >technical assistance.
    >> Philip & Marilyn Lange
    >>     AE4OV & KD4JRC,
    >>       ORYOKI
    >> Witness 35 Catamaran

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