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    Using a theodolite as a (solar) sextant
    From: Mike L
    Date: 2008 Feb 12, 04:24 -0800

    I have finally found a really simple** way to prove to kids that you
    can locate yourself using the sun (in the surroundings of a campsite
    without the sea for a horizon) ... and that is to use a theodolite.
    
    It seems to work very well, I buy a cheap theodolite, spend a week
    fixing it so that I can measure the position of the sun, another
    realising I hadn't so much calibrated as bodged.
    
    Then eventually the sun comes out, I point the theodolite at the sun
    and focussing the sun on my hand, I align the sun so that it is
    visually located within the shadow of the telescope and .... hey
    presto, I confirm I am only 1 nautical mile away from real position.
    
    ... but ... how do I know whether this is just a lucky observation?
    
    Obviously I can't simply look through the telescope and check the sun
    is centrally located with the cross hairs ... or can I? I wouldn't
    have thought I could just take my sextant filter and use them on the
    back of the theodolite .... or could I ... and surely I would not see
    the cross hairs.
    
    What if I bought some solar filter and put that on the front of the
    telescope? Would I (and children) be able to see the cross hairs then?
    
    .... and is there any danger to the theodolite from solar heating if I
    keep pointing at the sun?
    
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    ** SIMPLE WAY:- I tried using a false horizon with a few children and
    quickly discovered that it was virtually impossible to use. The basic
    problem is that whereas children can easily find one object in a
    telescope and then you only need ask "can you see the sea, or the
    sky", and adjust the angle appropriately, with a false horizon,
    you are trying to bring two points into view when there are 14 ways
    they can be hidden:
    
    1/2 the object can be out of view because you are pointed too high/
    low,
    3/4  too far left/right,
    5/6 the sextant is tilted toward the left/right
    7/8 or that the angle is too great/small.
    9-12 the sextant may be correctly angled to see the sun/reflection,
    but the child has moved to left/right or forward/back and can no
    longer see the reflection.
    
    and without physically being able to look down the same eyepiece as
    the children, it is impossible to work out in which way they are going
    wrong and therefore impossible to help them find the "two suns".
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