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Re: Using star-star distances
From: Frank Reed
Date: 2008 Sep 27, 00:14 -0400
From: Frank Reed
Date: 2008 Sep 27, 00:14 -0400
Bill, you wrote: "How can a "repeatable error" be "no error?" "No" and "repeatable" are modifiers of "error." Semantics. If a calibrated 1 gram weight consistently measures 1.5 grams on scale, there is an error, one way or the other." But you see, that just isn't true in practice. Calibration is the process of determining these "errors" so that they are no longer sources of real error in measurements. The problem with your hypothetical one gram weight is merely that it has been mislabeled. We can fix that. Similarly, every sextant has an index correction which has to be measured and applied. It presents no difficulty, and we hardly even think of it as an error. And you added: "The "bad news" and frustration is if you have checked mirror alignment, eccentricity of the micrometer drum etc. and the advertising or certification sheet claims accuracy within plus/minus 18" along the arc, and the observations are 1!0 off at some point. It can be compensated for, but none-the-less a bummer." Well, yes, but that's an attitude issue. It's an attitude that has become rather "cultural" and common-place in the community of sextant users, and it's an attitude that can be changed. Why put up with a correctable error? And you wrote: "Especially--as from what I can conclude from the list archives and what I have seen--there is no pattern to the "blips." 88d OK, 90d off by 1', 92d OK. Testing at 10d intervals is interesting, but if the next tooth in the gear is flawed the testing is all but useless for establishing a pattern of "no" error." I have not encountered a sextant where the arc error jumped in this fashion (and I have not seen anything in the archives that I can recall that would imply that sort of pattern). I'm not saying that they don't exist --only that they are not a major concern. But let's suppose for the sake of argument that we measure every ten degrees and discover that there is a rapid change in arc error at some point, let's say between 70 and 80 degrees. We then have the option of closing in on that error. We can narrow it down and maybe determine that it is localized at 73 degrees. A traditional calibration table provides only a sparse sampling of angles on the arc. Some detail might be hiding in the spaces between. Of course, if you had a really pathologically bad arc with rapid changes all up and down the arc, then it might just be too much trouble to work with the instrument. And Bill you wrote, "Good to see you posting again." Thanks! Busy summer. You concluded: "After spending time in the halls of Purdue's Math/Science Bldg. with Alex playing with your laser-calibration method I look forward to the posting of your latest invention for calibration." I may have to disappoint you on that. I should say right now that I may not be describing the details of this apparatus here. It has some significant commercial value, even though sextants are far less important than they used to be in navigation. We will see... Regarding those laser tests, you might get a kick out of these instructions for building a very simple homemade laser collimator: http://www.instructables.com/id/Home-Made-Collimator/ -FER --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Navigation List archive: www.fer3.com/arc To post, email NavList@fer3.com To , email NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---