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    Re: Two years after Galileo: an English telescope in Japan
    From: Fred Hebard
    Date: 2020 Dec 28, 12:48 -0500
    Thanks for sharing this Frank.  The OUP piece repeats the canard that the Pope did not accept Galileo’s heliocentrism because it contradicted scripture.  My understanding is that the Papacy would not accept heliocentrism because it hadn’t been proven.  It hadn’t but a proof was possible.  I believe I came to this understanding through citations on NavList, but couldn’t cite them other than to elude to an erudite blogger, ∆esuit.

    Fred Hebard

    On Dec 28, 2020, at 12:15, Frank Reed <NoReply_FrankReed@fer3.com> wrote:

    The invention of the telescope was a really big deal. And shortly after Galileo was making headlines in Italy for his numerous astronomical discoveries using his small telescope, the East India Company arranged a gift of a silver and gold telescope to the Shogun of Japan in the name of King James I of Great Britain. 

    Here's a description of the book from OUP:

    There's a recording of an enjoyable, informative recent web presentation on the book by the author, Timon Screech. 

    A quote from that presentation, describing the Jesuits in Japan and the impact that a telescope might have had on the Shogun: "All that astronomy they've been teaching you for the past fifty years... it's wrong. It's not only wrong... They know it's wrong." Bear in mind that a substantial portion of this is a speculative theory, but it is possible, even plausible, and given limited records from the era, that may be as good as it gets.

    Frank Reed

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