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    Re: Two years after Galileo: an English telescope in Japan
    From: David Fleming
    Date: 2020 Dec 28, 14:23 -0800

    Fred , you point to the moons of Jupiter, obviously not orbiting  the Earth as evidence of non geocentric behavior.  In fairness to the Pope and the Church, while we now recognize the simplicity of the heliocentric model that didn't prove Galileo correct and certainly not to people who believe the Bible is revealed word of God.  Also we commonly credit scientists for recognizing truth even absent absolute confirmation - eg Galileo stating heavy and light objects fall off the Tower of Pisa at the same rate.

    Now we know that the Sun-Earth center of mass frame of presents a simpler picture than either geo or solar centric and that there is no defineable frame of reference that is the truth as sun is not stationary nor is our galaxy or ....

    DaveF

       
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