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    Re: Timed Noon sights for position
    From: Joel Jacobs
    Date: 2004 Jan 21, 17:23 -0500

    Doug,
    
    I didn't mean to appear to be depreciating your approach. I was only
    mentioning that I have achieved similar objectives using what I consider to
    be alternative methods.
    
    My motive was to be the second person to offer support, and encourage you to
    keep trying new things.
    
    Joel Jacobs
    
    
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Royer, Doug" 
    To: 
    Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 5:09 PM
    Subject: Re: Timed Noon sights for position
    
    
    > There are many procedures and many ways to accomplish the same goal.In my
    > origonal post on this matter I put forward this method as one of the
    methods
    > used.Some list members were horrified.Most times one doesn't use the Noon
    > sight to obtain longitude.I wished to show that when needed(deteriorating
    > conditions or circumstances)it can be used to give an approximation of
    > longitude where only an estimated latitude was calculated.One more tool.
    > Sometimes one doesn't have the luxury of turning the ships head from the
    > trackline to obtain celestial course lines(as Joel noted)or the time to
    > shoot double altitudes or multiple averaging sights.Are there pitfalls
    > useing this method?You bet.
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Navigation Mailing List
    > [mailto:NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM]On Behalf Of Noyce, Bill
    > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 13:33
    > To: NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM
    > Subject: Re: Timed Noon sights for position
    >
    >
    > Doug, I'm sorry if I misunderstood, but it looked as if you
    > computed the time of LAN at your estimated position, then
    > took a single sight at that computed time (to the best of
    > your ability).  While this might provide a reasonable estimate
    > of your latitude, using it for longitude involves a circular
    > argument -- the only input is the time you computed, so of
    > course your result is equal to your estimated longitude.
    > Or was there some other procedure used to determine the "time"
    > to record along with the sextant altitude?
    >         -- Bill
    
    
    

       
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