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Re: Time of meridian passage accuracy
From: Douglas Denny
Date: 2009 Sep 28, 15:36 -0700
From: Douglas Denny
Date: 2009 Sep 28, 15:36 -0700
Thank you Jim. A most interesting paper. Graphical Fig 2 being useful. Using your graph for my April example of observations gives about 14 seconds delta t correction for true LAN, and your graph confirms making corrections for North/South motion of the observer as becoming more important requiring correction with increasing exaggeration and distortion of the curve. It does also show though, that these corrections at LAN although correctable (and therefore useful to do) are not very great: and that brings us back to the theoretical/practicalities debate. In the final table for example, your paper does confirm that except for the last example near polar observations at 82 North where delta t becomes a highly significant 23 minutes, all the other delta t corrections for LAN are within eight minutes of time; and the delts h corrections to altitude are within one and a half minutes of arc. As has been shown by my poor sort of graph with bubble sextant, (and also demonstrated with the Admiralty Vol III curve diagrams G.H. mentioned) that the rate of change of altitude is so slow at LAN that it is within about one minute of arc altitude at peak for a good plus or minus eight to ten minutes, so the delta t is not quite so important if the observation is 'out' for max altitude - so much as the delta h correction which _is_ important for accuracy of a latitude sight and what would concern me in practical terms. In other words, the timing of a latitude sight at LAN is not so important as the potential correction for error required in altitude (which is not obvious to the casual observer). ----------- This is not to say the Bowditch criterion should be OK for _longitude_ with a laxity of one minute of time - there I agree with G.Huxtable; but your paper demonstrates a latitude within a couple of minutes of arc can be obtained without corrections, and hence, if as you say in your conclusions, one is without GPS, and limited resources (assuming one still has a declination table available which need only occupy a single page somewhere in the emergency bag) one could quite successfuly make good landfall within a latitude of two miles crossing the Atlantic say from Europe with just a maximum altitude observation (if you still have a sextant that is), ..... as Columbus did with an astrolabe in fact. ---------- Perhaps a greater simplification is possible with a graph of delta h /Vs. declination change rate /Vs. observer's (boat) speed /Vs. Latitude: would allow a simple correction factor of delta h to be applied to a max altitude observation at transit. Then the timing of max altitude is not important at all (within reason, say +or- eight minutes), and the corrected max altitude obtained for a latitude observation which is what one wants without fuss. Regards, Douglas Denny. Chichester. England. ========== Original Post: Douglas: George listed a link to my paper: Jim Wilson Linked File: imgx/v32n1-6.pdf (no thumbnail available) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ NavList message boards: www.fer3.com/arc Or post by email to: NavList@fer3.com To , email NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---