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    Re: Ten years managing NavList
    From: Fred Hebard
    Date: 2016 Jul 9, 22:56 -0400
    My understanding is that in the U.S., a son who has the same name as a father is a “Jr.'  If the relationship is different, the second oldest is ‘II."  For instance, for a grandfather and grandson, the grandson would be "II.”

    Fred Hebard



    On Jul 9, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Bill B <NoReply_BillB@fer3.com> wrote:


    On 7/9/2016 1:23 PM, Robert VanderPol II wrote:
    > * Laws are what people make up *
    
    I did not think of limiting "laws" to the applied sciences, but rather
    to laws in general including civil and criminal laws. For the latter I
    like to quip, "God's law as interpreted by the legislature."
    
    Regarding gravity, it is my understanding we know it exists, we can
    calculate its affects, but do we don't know exactly why there is
    gravity. And what the heck is dark energy and dark matter?
    
    As Frank pointed out we observe some phenomena, then tinker with it
    until we can build a working model. (Hopefully using the scientific
    method instead of attributing it to the gods.) At that point we hang a
    name on it. Here I might quip, "The universe's (or universes') laws as
    interpreted by man."
    
    Therefore I agree with Mr. VanderPol II. Off topic, how can there be a
    Robert VanderPol II? My birth certificate reads "Jr." after my names. At
    that point my father became "Senior." As I understand it, at least in
    the USA, the first person to have a numbered designation would be the
    son of a junior. The junior does not then become the II, even with a
    III. Perhaps it is different for nobility and popes? Any help on that?
    
    Clearly a few slow-news days, so that's my verbal-volleyball two cents
    worth.
    

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