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    Re: Sunrise - the Positive Side
    From: John Huth
    Date: 2013 May 6, 17:07 -0400
    Thanks for Falconer's poem.   That's wonderful!     I really enjoy doing sunrise and sunset observations - it makes me feel connected to history, and I also like to think about all the oddities of refraction. 

    I'll stay away from the Earhart stuff, but here's cute trick: if you're at a beach or very close to sea level near sunset - lie down on the ground.  When you see the upper limb just vanish, jump up, and you'll regain the upper limb for a few seconds due to dip angle changes.   I suppose you could try to calculate the radius of the earth using this, but my attempts only got me to within factors of 3-5 or so, but that's refraction for ya. 




    On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Don Seltzer <timoneer@gmail.com> wrote:

    Jeremy C wrote: I tend to agree with Byron. It's easiest to observe and compute the amplitude on the celestial horizon.


    In my standing orders, I have it stated that azimuths and amplitudes are to be shot every watch when the opportunity presents itself.

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    I think it worthwhile to repost William Falconer's 18th century description of the routine:

    'The dim horizon lowering vapours shroud,
    And blot the sun yet struggling in the cloud;
    Thro' the wide atmosphere condensed with haze,
    His glaring orb emits a sanguine blaze.
    The pilots now their azimuth attend,
    On which all courses, duly form'd, depend:
    The compass placed to catch the rising ray,
    The quadrant's shadows studious they survey;
    Along the arch the gradual index slides,
    While Phoebus down the vertic-circle glides;
    Now seen on ocean's utmost verge to swim,
    He sweeps it vibrant with his nether limb.
    Thus height, and polar distance are obtain'd,
    Then latitude, and declination, gain'd;
    In chiliads next the analogy is sought,
    And on sinical triangle wrought:
    By this magnetic variance is explored,
    Just angles known, and polar truth restored.'

    from The Shipwreck

    Don Seltzer


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