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Re: Star-star distances for arc error
From: George Huxtable
Date: 2009 Jun 26, 21:27 +0100
From: George Huxtable
Date: 2009 Jun 26, 21:27 +0100
Frank Reed wrote- "you may want to take a peek at "appendix G: sextant arc error tables" in John Karl's book "Celestial Navigation in the GPS Age". The preface to these tables begins, "The following tables are handy for checking sextant arc error. They give star-star distances adjusted for the refraction..." And for those NavList members who have a copy of this book, if you look at those tables, you can see large blocks in the center of each table where the refracted distance barely changes. Those are the cases where both objects are above 45 degrees and fit the case which I've described in the first message in the thread. I should add that Ken Gebhart, who is co-publisher of John Karl's book and the world's largest distributor of sextants today, considers this the best text in celestial navigation currently on the market. I think it's pretty good, too! :-)" ================== I think it's pretty good, too, as a whole, but one of its serious weaknesses is in that star-star distance table, appendix G. Anyone using it should be aware of the following problem, which I explained on [4062], as follows- "With the discussion about inter-star differences, I remembered that John Karl's new book, "Celestial Navigation in the GPS age", devoted several pages to helping users to calibrate or check their own sextants that way. He selected 12 pairs of bright stars (with rather a Northern-hemisphere bias), to provide a suitable spread of angles to calibrate, ranging from Bellatrix to Betelgeuse, at about 7 deg 30', as far as Betelgeuse to Spica, at over 113 deg. For each such pair, he provides a table, showing how the refraction alters the odd minutes and fractions of that separation, based on the observer's latitude, and on the altitude of the first-named star. In the explanation he claims- "Since the observer's latitude and the star's altitude determine the altitudes of any other star ... the altitude of the second star is not needed". On the face of it, it seems a good simple scheme, dead easy for a user to implement. But on reflection, I'm not convinced. I have been worrying about that statement. I don't think it is true. It's all a bit more complicated than that, I fear. Given a latitude, and a star with known declination, and an observed altitude, it's true that one can deduce a local hour angle. That local hour angle will be the same in amount, corresponding to that altitude, whether the star is rising or falling in the sky, before or after culmination, but will be opposite in sign. And there will therefore be two completely different Greenwich hour angles. And therefore two completely different possible values for the local hour angle, and thus the altitude, of the second star. Therefore, as I see it, there should be two different tables for the refraction correction, depending on whether the first star is to the East or the West of the observer. The table as given, for, say, Bellatrix to Betelgeuse, tells only half the story. I haven't investigated the matter deeply enough to discover which half. Am I missing something, somewhere? Have I misunderstood? Can anyone help? John Karl himself, perhaps, if he still tunes in to Navlist, though we haven't heard from him recently." ===================== That was in November 2007. Since then, John Karl and I have been in touch. He has accepted that the star-star distances would only be correct during the rising part of path of star 1, to the Eastwards, and has completely revised that table for the second edition of his book. That edition is presumably out, by now, but I haven't seen it. In addition, there's another source of erroir in those predictions. No account has been taken of annual aberration, which varies cyclically over the year, and in the worst case can amount to errors in star-star angle amounting to 40 arc-seconds (though not quite that high for any star pairs chosen by John). So, anyone wishing to make high-precision checks on a sextant using star-star distances would be well advised to calculate, and correct for, the refractions from first principles, rather than follow Frank's recommendation of Table G in Karl's book. I wonder if Frank has ever tried it? George. contact George Huxtable, at george@hux.me.uk or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222) or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Navigation List archive: www.fer3.com/arc To post, email NavList@fer3.com To , email NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---