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Re: Star-star distances for arc error
From: Bill B
Date: 2009 Jun 28, 05:14 -0400
From: Bill B
Date: 2009 Jun 28, 05:14 -0400
> From: "George Huxtable"> This attention being given to appendix G distracts from the real value of > John Karl's book, and I understand that in the new edition, this, and a few > other matters, are corrected. What I do get from this is star-to-star distances have been published in at least two texts I know of, all which seem to fall a bit short of actually doing the calculations for the moment, and adjusting refraction for sea-level barometric pressure, altitude, and temperature; but close to the theoretical value, although not always spot on. Discussion of this star-to-star nonsense (as I have recently learned) is waste of electrons, George. "Accuracy of Measuring Inter-Stellar Distances. page 129, refers to methods of determining index error, and specifically mentions inter-stellar angles as a means of checking sextant accuracy. He concludes it is impracticable as the superimposition of stars cannot be made accurately enough, and "the error in the readings is unacceptably large". He places the error as large as 5 minutes of arc, which even I find surprising and considerably larger than I would have thought. He also makes the point that I have mentioned of different eye acuities having an effect: namely the ability of judging continuity of a line as opposed to superposition of points." Personally when swinging the sextant I perceive I am judging lines, or at least as I was taught in visual perception (the key word here being "perception," or why a movie flickering at 28 frames per second looks like fluid motion.) Thanks to terms like "rigorous and scientific vs. "anecdotal evidence" I see the light. I would have preferred an MIT, Princeton etc. study over Yale or Harvard (lawyers and MBA's vs. the sciences) but how can one argue with hard scientific evidence like, "Observations were made on land; on a small boat yawing at anchor; reaching in a force 3 wind at sea; Beating into force 4 wind etc ... "I note the error in most cases including the 'ideal' conditions was a sigma of around 0.33 minutes of arc. This means an accuracy range of 0.66 minutes of arc is to be expected in 68% of observations; and 1.32 minutes of arc in 95% of all observations." The results are not really too bad under field conditions IMHO. Just for openers, rigorous? What size (length and beam) is a small boat? Light, medium or heavy displacement? Keel type? Wind direction/duration and fetch or frequency and amplitude of waves/swell? Test subjects experience and instruments? On board measurements of pitch, roll and yaw? Measurement from the top of a wave/swell? Anchored?? Oh well, back to the coconuts ;-) Bill B. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Navigation List archive: www.fer3.com/arc To post, email NavList@fer3.com To , email NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---