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    Re: Stars could have saved them
    From: Tom Sult
    Date: 2017 Mar 02, 15:19 -0600
    I agree John this is a failure of basic airmanship. But I am only a bug smasher pilot... My understanding is that the Big Iron pilots don't even qualify under partial panel due to the level of redundancy. 

    And I use dim red light in the cockpit to preserve night vision. Braking out of the soup at 200 agl under a hard deck of clouds in pitch black with poor dark adaptation seems like a bad idea.  

    Tom Sult, MD
    Author: JUST BE WELL (goo.gl/jUbWIX)

    On Mar 2, 2017, at 14:43, John D. Howard <NoReply_Howard@fer3.com> wrote:


    Much better to look at the airspeed to see if it is decreasing or the altimeter to see if you are going up.

    Pilots today rely too much on electronic gagets and not enough on basic, common sense.  My last few years flying I noticed my first officers hardly ever looked out the window, even close to landing.

    Several years back there was a dicussion on a flight across Africa where the navigator put the wrong info into the gyro compass.  The airplane got way off course and crashed because of wrong heading and the nav shooting the wrong stars with the sextant.  Once again, if the pilots would have looked out the window at a star or constalation they could have seen the gross error in their course.  Look out the window - look at the sky!  But first, look at the other instruments to see if they all say the same thing.

    John H.

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