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    Re: The Star of Bethlehem and Navigation
    From: NavList
    Date: 2009 Jan 5, 03:38 -0800

    Hello,
    
    I am the author of the book on the Star of Bethlehem mentioned by Marcel Tschudin.
    
    Marcel Tschudin wrote:
    > After
    > studying various texts a person came to the conclusion that this star
    > has likely been Venus in the morning-sky at the moment when it changed
    > its movement from retrograde to normal. 
    
    This is not exactly my message. According to my theory, Jesus was born near 
    the heliacal rising of Venus, which took place in late August 2 BCE (-1). At 
    that time Venus was retrograde. In ancient terminology (e.g. with Ptolemy) 
    the term for retrogradation was "to go before" (proegeisthai = proagein in 
    NT). Babylonians had similar expression. This is why the Bible says that the 
    star "went before" the magi. Note that no other planet (except sometimes 
    Mercury) can be retrograde at its morning first. This is a strong indication 
    that it must be Venus. And in the end of the Revelation Jesus says "I am ... 
    the bright morning star". However, the magi arrived at Bethlehem a couple of 
    days later when the star stood still.
    
    I date the birth of Jesus near the heliacal rising of Venus after a new moon, 
    while the Sun is in Virgo. This fits the 1st September 2 BCE.  
    
    > I can't explain why my computation has Venus stationary on the 10th, not
    > the 1st.
    
    I think, I explained it now.
    
    > Another problem is that 1) the Magi arrived in Jeruselem in the time of
    > King Herod, 2) Herod died in 4 BC. I wonder how the author of this new
    > theory explains the discrepancy.
    
    Several authors on the Star of Bethlehem (Ernest L. Martin, Werner Papke) have 
    doubted the generally assumed death year of Herod. If you are interested in 
    the question you should study their arguments, which are too complicated to 
    explain them here in detail.
    
    I also put an English translation of my book online for a couple of days so 
    you can have a look into it: 
    http://www.gilgamesh.ch/stern_von_bethlehem/koch_stob_english_online.pdf. 
    Hard copies can be ordered from lulu.com.
    
    Regards
    
    Dieter Koch
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