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    Re: Solstice
    From: Paul Saffo
    Date: 2021 Jun 20, 21:05 -0700

    Okay Frank, you can settle a pet peeve of mine. There is no consensus that I can discern re the relationship between the Solstice and the start/middle of summer.  Consider:

    These cultures consider the Solstice to be mid-summer: Sweden, Ukraine, England (since centuries before the time of Shakespeare's Midsummer's Night's Dream!), Spain.

    Portugal is earlier - June 13 in Lisbon, and later (June 29) in Sintra.

    Along with midwinter, I would argue that midsummer is a date quite separate from the Solstice, which as everyone in this group knows, is very specifially (and empirically) defined. By contrast, the start or middle of summer is a squishier non-specific date determined by cultural habit and perhaps climate/weather.

    What am I missing?

    -p

    I thus would argue that the Solstice is nothing other than theSolstice. It is not the start of summer, nor mid-summer.

       
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