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Re: Silicon Sea Leg 88 questions
From: Joel Jacobs
Date: 2004 Jan 30, 18:59 -0500
From: Joel Jacobs
Date: 2004 Jan 30, 18:59 -0500
Hi Peter, I used a 30+ year old NC-2 hardwired navigation calculator which was jointly developed by Nautech Maritime Corporation, of Chicago, IL and Tamaya & Co, Tokyo, Japan, and your arguments. The solution is a zero intercept, as you said. BTW, I haven't used it in years, but it still does what it was designed to do. Joel Jacobs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fogg"To: Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Silicon Sea Leg 88 questions > Hi again Renee > > Recently I posted to the Nav List, in answer to your query: > > > Peter -- I disagree on the solution to part 5 > > > You can't set > > > the Intercept to 0. > my response: > > My calculated intercept via one method, capable of resolving this to the > > nearest minute of arc, was zero. > > I've now checked this with another method (don't be lazy myself!) and > > agree with your answer. > > I've had another look at this Question 5. The time given is within a couple > of seconds of local noon, so treating it as a meridian passage of the sun > gives a latitude of N39d 46' which is the DR latitude, so via a sight > reduction method a zero intercept, as my original answer. So I've redone the > sight reduction two ways and confirmed the zero intercept, meaning the > computed altitude and the (corrected) observed altitude are both 54d 58' (to > the nearest minute of arc). > What intrigues me now is how I got an identical answer to yours, quickly > using my nav. calculator. I can't get it again! > > Here are my steps for a noon sight: > > sextant altitude 54 48.1 > dip -2.9 > index error -2.5 > apparent alt 54 42.7 > alt corr +15 > observed alt 54 58 (rounded to nearest minute of arc) > > 89 60 (another way of expressing 90d) > -54 58 > zenith distance 35 02 > declination + 04 44 > = latitude 39 46 > > Could you check your calculations for Q5, perhaps also work the problem as a > noon sun sight, and let me know the results? I'm still not sure I > haven't made a mistake somewhere. > > It would be good to check our answers against the official ones, but despite > a posting by Dan Hogan (the author and webmaster) that "ssea.zip has been > upgrades to include Leg 83" I can't find a link on http://www.wa6pby.com/ > that leads to the Silicon Sea archive. In any case, it apparently won't > include Leg 88. I've had a look for the answers on the Nav List archives and > can't find them there either. Were they ever posted? > > Some more comments on your answers follow: > > > > 1) DR #1 39d39.4' N 154d 42.4'W > > This is identical (to the nearest tenth of a minute of arc) to the most > accurate method I have, using both meridional parts and distances. My answer > was rounded to the nearest minutes of arc. > > > > 3) > > > 78.5d, 1652 nmi via the Rhumb Line > > > 67d, 1639 nmi via the Great Circle. (67d for first leg.) > > By comparison, my answer to nearest tenth of degree or nautical mile > 078.8d for 1652.2nm rhumb line > 066.6d (initial) for 1634.1nm great circle > is slightly different, implying that you used a different method for these > calculations? > > I note you are using mainly electronic solutions. You might like to consider > having, at least as a back-up that needs no batteries or internet > connection, a manual alternative that only requires pencil and paper. Its > good to be able to check results from any method with another independant > method. > If you're interested I have a suggestion as to a reasonably simple paper > alternative (including "celestial data") to electronic calculations. > > In any case, for "a self-taught beginner" you're not doing too badly. > > Peter Fogg