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Re: Sextant accuracy (was : Plumb-line horizon vs. geocentric horizon)
From: Frank Reed CT
Date: 2005 Feb 13, 03:55 EST
From: Frank Reed CT
Date: 2005 Feb 13, 03:55 EST
Jared you wrote:
"Two minutes of angle ("MOA") at 100
yards would be "typical" but that's a limit of the rifle not the shooter.
1/2 MOA is not unusual in competitions, that is, five rounds in a 1/2"
radius. But that's not so much from the human eye, but from extreme skill at
holding the weapon steady, and preparing the rifle and ammunition to extreme
tolerances, then either judging the wind very well or shooting on a calm
day"
yards would be "typical" but that's a limit of the rifle not the shooter.
1/2 MOA is not unusual in competitions, that is, five rounds in a 1/2"
radius. But that's not so much from the human eye, but from extreme skill at
holding the weapon steady, and preparing the rifle and ammunition to extreme
tolerances, then either judging the wind very well or shooting on a calm
day"
I can see what you mean, but consider this: If visual resolution issues
were irrelevant, you would get those five rounds in a tight cluster from a
steady hand, but they would not necessarily cluster at the center of the target.
The eye has to enter into it. I liked Alex's thought that the circle around
the center is the primary visual clue and that could permit sub-arcminute
accuracy in aiming.
And:
"You'll find resolution limits of the human eye somewhere out there on
the
web. They vary somewhat as does vision, i.e. farsighted? 20-20? 20-20 is
supposedly normal, but 20-10 and even 20-5 exist. Even without genetics,
there's a lot of variation in eyes."
web. They vary somewhat as does vision, i.e. farsighted? 20-20? 20-20 is
supposedly normal, but 20-10 and even 20-5 exist. Even without genetics,
there's a lot of variation in eyes."
I did as you suggested and went looking on the web. I googled on
"angular resolution human eye". There's a lot of variety. More than one
astronomy site mentions something in the range of 3 to 10 minutes. This is
clearly not correct and, as I mentioned in another message, I think it's
influenced by the Mizar and Alcor story. A number of sites calculate the formal
diffraction limit resolution from theta=3438*1.22*lambda/D [theta is the
limiting angle in minutes of arc, lambda is the wavelength of the light being
observed, D is the diameter of the aperature, and 3438 converts the angle to
minutes while 1.22 results from the specifics of a circular aperture]. This
calculation is important but I think it misses the point that the eye is an
optical system sitting on top of a detector array --it's the retina that sets
the real limit. You can't do *better* than the diffraction limit, but that
doesn't mean that this is the actual resolution of the eye. And finally
there are a number of sites that talk about empirical tests and most of these
say "about 1 minute of arc".
Of course my optics laboratory is close at hand (my optics lab is my
kitchen...), so I decided to do some simple testing with my own pair of detector
arrays. I drew various shapes on an index card taped on a wall: pairs of dots,
pairs of thick black lines, pairs of thin red lines, pairs of blue dots, etc.
Then I moved away from the card until I couldn't see the difference between the
pairs anymore. The specific geometry and colors made some difference (lines are
easier to split than dots) but in every case I got a resolution of 1.2 to 1.7
minutes of arc. Next I did similar patterns cut into a piece of aluminum foil
taped over a flashlight and turned out all the lights. The results were in
the same range.
-FER
42.0N 87.7W, or 41.4N 72.1W.
www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars
42.0N 87.7W, or 41.4N 72.1W.
www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars