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    Re: Sextant Repairs
    From: Robert Gainer
    Date: 2004 Aug 1, 13:43 +0000

    After seeing what you guys have, my piece of �string� is a downright
    embarrassment. This is one of the few times that I am glad that I don�t have
    a digital camera and that I am slow to type a response to some of the posts
    I see go by. Just to keep up with the rest of you I am now making a fancier
    lanyard.
    Robert Gainer
    
    
    
    >From: Joel Jacobs 
    >Reply-To: Navigation Mailing List 
    >To: NAVIGATION-L{at}LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM
    >Subject: Re: SEXTANT REPAIRS
    >Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 09:26:28 -0400
    >
    >Courtney,
    >
    >I am glad to see our well rounded navigator Jim Thompson has this one in
    >his
    >bag of tricks.
    >
    >This one is not as fancy as some.
    >http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-7/767317/P8010002.JPG
    >
    >BTW, Boatswain's Mates take great pride in their rope work.
    >
    >Joel
    >
    >
    >----- Original Message -----
    >From: "Courtney Thomas" 
    >To: 
    >Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 10:02 AM
    >Subject: Re: SEXTANT REPAIRS
    >
    >
    > > Requesting a lanyard picture, please.....
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Joel Jacobs wrote:
    > >
    > > > I haven't got the time to spend on making sextant repairs, but if
    >anyone
    >has
    > > > the need for Tamaya or C. Plath parts they are welcome to check with
    >me.
    >I
    > > > might be able to come up with something. Some of these parts such as a
    > > > filter housing, with filters, may be drilled and tapped to fit other
    >makes.
    > > > The same for legs.  Unless you're a purist, $75.00 U.S. plus shipping
    >is
    >a
    > > > bit steep for each filter for most of us.
    > > >
    > > > SEXTANT DAMAGE:  I made a very fancy "rope work" lanyard like those
    >used
    > > > with a bo'sun pipe, which I wore around my neck attached to my
    >sextant.
    >In
    > > > all the years at sea on small craft where the forces can be extreme ,
    >I
    > > > never had any damage. I suggest others might find this useful. I can
    >send a
    > > > picture of one attached to a bo'sun pipe to those interested.
    > > >
    > > > ATB,
    > > >
    > > > Joel Jacobs
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > > From: "Robert Gainer" 
    > > > To: 
    > > > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 6:52 PM
    > > > Subject: Re: Soviet Sextants!
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >>In the time that I have been cruising, I have had to resilver the
    >mirrors
    > > >>once. Replace a leg on both the Freiberger and the Cassens & Plath,
    >once
    > > >>
    > > > on
    > > >
    > > >>each. I had a friend make a mirror adjusting screw and the
    >mirror-locating
    > > >>pin for a Heath that I have. I just sent the horizon filter assembly
    >back
    > > >>
    > > > to
    > > >
    > > >>Cassens & Plath to have a filter replaced (60 euro per glass). The
    >only
    > > >>sextant that I own that has not had some work done on it is my
    >Brandis.
    >If
    > > >>you sail long enough or far enough in a small boat you will need to
    > > >>
    > > > replace
    > > >
    > > >>the light assembles or a leg on your sextant, it will happen. The
    >price
    >of
    > > >>the parts is not the issue. I don't think that if the cost of the leg
    >were
    > > >>double it would make any difference. You only buy the part once in 30
    > > >>
    > > > years.
    > > >
    > > >>Add to this the leg only cost 25 dollars, if it were twice as much so
    > > >>
    > > > what.
    > > >
    > > >>But if you can't get the part when you need it, now that's a problem.
    >I
    > > >>would hate to throw away the Plath because the filter was not
    >available.
    > > >>Before I bought any thing like a sextant you can be sure that I would
    >find
    > > >>out who is going to service it and if they can they give me some
    >assurance
    > > >>on the availability of parts. If the sextant is damaged so much that
    >you
    > > >>need the help of a repair shop, then I think its time to shop for a
    > > >>replacement. If the frame were bent, I would not have it repaired. My
    > > >>
    > > > office
    > > >
    > > >>is in need of some decorations anyway.
    > > >>All the best,
    > > >>Robert Gainer
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >>>From: Joel Jacobs 
    > > >>>Reply-To: Navigation Mailing List
    >
    > > >>>To: NAVIGATION-L{at}LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM
    > > >>>Subject: Re: Soviet Sextants!
    > > >>>Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 16:58:23 -0400
    > > >>>
    > > >>>Courtney,
    > > >>>
    > > >>>Sextants that are in use, barring being dropped, shouldn't require
    >much,
    > > >>>
    > > > if
    > > >
    > > >>>any service. The most that needs be done would be to replace mirrors
    >or
    > > >>>maybe fix the illumination on C. Plaths which is a weak point. You
    >can
    > > >>>always have a Plath or Tamaya mirror notched, using a grinding wheel
    >to
    > > >>>replace a SNO-T horizon mirror.
    > > >>>
    > > >>>Joel Jacobs
    > > >>>
    > > >>>
    > > >>>----- Original Message -----
    > > >>>From: "Courtney Thomas" 
    > > >>>To: 
    > > >>>Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 1:19 PM
    > > >>>Subject: Re: Soviet Sextants!
    > > >>>
    > > >>>
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>Joel,
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>What is the situation regarding service/repair of the CHO sextants ?
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>If unavailable, I'd guess the Freiberger, though real high, is at
    > > >>>>
    > > > least
    > > >
    > > >>>>available.
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>Cordially,
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>Courtney
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>Joel Jacobs wrote:
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>>Good call Renee,
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>The Alexey I was speaking of is at this site.
    > > >>>>>
    > > > www.antiques-marine.com
    > > >
    > > >>>>>Yuri as below, as you've read has a reputation of faithful dealing,
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>but
    > > >>>I
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>>'ve no personal experience with him.
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>Rene, the parts of the Freiberger and SNO-T are not
    >interchangeable.
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>The
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>>cost of Freiberger parts in this country is quite high. Check with
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>Claussen
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>>Instruments. The owner, Wayne handles sextants personally.
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>IMO, a good clean SNO-T should sell for close to $375-$400.00 with
    >a
    > > >>>>>
    > > > 4
    > > >
    > > >>>x
    > > >>>40
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>>or 3.5 x 40 scope in the U.S.  They're worth less than half that
    > > >>>>>
    > > > with
    > > >
    > > >>>a
    > > >>>7 x
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>>scope. If it has two scopes don't add much for the high powered
    >one.
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>So,
    > > >>>you
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>>really need to know the scope situation before you can evaluate the
    > > >>>>>attractiveness of a Russian sextant. And then don't forget the
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>mirrors.
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>>Sextant mirrors are horrendously expensive.
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>BTW, Mauri had a NEW SNO-T on his site for close to $400.00 which
    >is
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>quite
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>>high considering the shipping. Everyone knows that in the Cyrillic
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>alphabet
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>>that S and T are the same?
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>A good clean Freiberger should bring from $375-$450, so I
    >personally
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>don't
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>>see much difference between them price wise.
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>Sextants that are in use, barring being dropped, shouldn't require
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>much
    > > >>>if
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>>any service. The most that needs be done would be to replace
    >mirrors
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>or
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>>maybe fix the illumination on C. Plaths which is a weak point. You
    > > >>>>>
    > > > can
    > > >
    > > >>>>>always have a Plath or Tamaya mirror notched to replace a SNO-T
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>horizon
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>>mirror.
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>Joel Jacobs
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>----- Original Message -----
    > > >>>>>From: "Renee Mattie" 
    > > >>>>>To: 
    > > >>>>>Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 11:57 AM
    > > >>>>>Subject: Re: Soviet Sextants!
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>>From: Renee Mattie [mailto:reneemattie---.com]
    > > >>>>>>Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 9:59 AM
    > > >>>>>>To: 'Navigation Mailing List'
    > > >>>>>>Subject: RE: [NAV-L] Soviet Sextants!
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>Joel Jacobs said:
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>>I am pasting a representative copy of one of my Russian ebay
    > > >>>>>>>
    > > > sextant
    > > >
    > > >>>>>>listings which
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>>discusses the advantages of the Russian SNO-T sextant in
    > > >>>>>>>
    > > > particular,
    > > >
    > > >>>>>>>and
    > > >>>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>in general. If
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>>the seller is "ALEXEY" and I think it is, I have dealt with him a
    > > >>>>>>>couple
    > > >>>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>of times, and
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>>he is totally trustworthy.
    > > >>>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>The seller gives contact information of:
    > > >>>>>>Yuri Margorsky: maur{at}online.kharkiv.com
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>I don't know if he has any relation to the Alexey you speak of.
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>I have a question though:
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>Robert Gainer said:
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>>Because you can buy the Freiberger for within a few dollars of
    >the
    > > >>>>>>>Soviet
    > > >>>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>one, what are
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>>you gaining? It's easier to get parts or have the Freiberger
    > > >>>>>>>
    > > > serviced
    > > >
    > > >>>>>>>and
    > > >>>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>I would feel > more comfortable with it, if for that reason and
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>nothing
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>>>else.
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>I know the SNO-T is based closely on the Freiberger.  Can it not
    >use
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>the
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>>>same parts?
    > > >>>>>>Would it be more difficult to get parts and services for the
    >SNO-T?
    > > >>>>>>In general, the Freiberger price of a Freiberger on Ebay is at
    >least
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>20%
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>>>higher than that for a SNO-T.  I am surprised to see maurnavy
    > > >>>>>>
    > > > selling
    > > >
    > > >>>one
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>>>for LESS than the SNO-T.  The pictured Freibuger looks perfect
    > > >>>>>>
    > > > (though
    > > >
    > > >>>>>there
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>>are no closeups of any of the parts).  The only visible difference
    > > >>>>>>
    > > > is
    > > >
    > > >>>that
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>>>it has only one scope.
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>Renee
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>>>
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>--
    > > >>>>s/v Mutiny
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    > > >>>>lying Oriental, NC
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