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Re: Sextant Comparisons -> to Joel Jacobs...
From: Joel Jacobs
Date: 2004 Mar 21, 01:03 -0500
From: Joel Jacobs
Date: 2004 Mar 21, 01:03 -0500
Courtney, IMO, the SNO-T is of higher quality than a SNO-M and maybe even better than a Freiberger. I would prefer it to either of the other two. Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Courtney Thomas"To: Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 8:16 PM Subject: Re: Sextant Comparisons -> to Joel Jacobs... > Thank you Joel. > > Are the T and M sextants equivalent in quality ? > > Courtney > > > > Joel Jacobs wrote: > > > Hi Courtney, > > > > I think it has been explained here before that under the Cyrillic alphabet, > > the English C is the same as the Russian S so that SNO-T and SNO-T are the > > same sextant. Your SNO-T sextant has many similarities to the German > > Freiberger, including its paint, but is appreciably smaller in size. It is a > > more expensive sextant than the SNO-M. I have seen the SNO-M in both black, > > and military green. > > > > Joel > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Courtney Thomas" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 5:39 PM > > Subject: Re: Sextant Comparisons -> to Joel Jacobs... > > > > > > > >>Joel, > >> > >>I should have said...I have a SNO-M, not T. Anyway, the awful olive > >>color and the one scope. I got it real cheap and want to bring it up to > >>snuff. > >> > >>I also have a more recent SNO-T which has an agreable silver color and 2 > >>scopes. > >> > >>But I obviously agree that the Russian sextants are good and a great buy. > >> > >>Appreciatively, > >>Courtney > >> > >> > >> > >>Courtney Thomas wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Joel, > >>> > >>>I have one and hate the color, but am otherwise satisfied. > >>> > >>>What is "black wrinkle paint" ? Where do I get it and how is it applied > >>>for optimal esthetics ? > >>> > >>>Where can I get a proper scope for CELNAV ? How much ? > >>> > >>>Appreciatively, > >>> > >>>Courtney > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Joel Jacobs wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Fred, > >>>> > >>>>Your best bet is a Russian SNO-T sextant. They are very underrated, > >>>>and have > >>>>most all the features of the preferred brands, and even come in a > >>>> > > smaller > > > >>>>size for convenience. However, most of them are sold with only an > >>>>astronomical scope which presents the image inverted, and IMO are > >>>> > > useless > > > >>>>for CELNAV. Configured with the 7 x scope, you should be able to buy > >>>>one for > >>>>$250.00 because they are a drudge on the market with out an erect > >>>> > > imaging > > > >>>>scope. You can read about them in detail at: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3712084763&category=37971 > > > >>>>&sspagename=STRK%3AMESSE%3AIT&rd=1 > >>>> > >>>>They wont meet your standards for good looks, but you can get some > >>>> > > black > > > >>>>wrinkle paint, and make them look as pretty as you like. They are a > >>>> > > great > > > >>>>buy. > >>>> > >>>>Joel Jacobs > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: "Fred Hebard" > >>>>To: > >>>>Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 12:15 PM > >>>>Subject: Re: Sextant Comparisons > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Doug, > >>>>> > >>>>>No, I don't collect older equipment. I have been trying to acquire a > >>>>>sextant suitable for lunar observations, so I look for sextants with > >>>>>defects on Ebay that might still be serviceable. > >>>>> > >>>>>I have one British Husun that only has the "star scope." It's a 2.5x > >>>>>power scope. It's my understanding that a more powerful one would > >>>>> > > give > > > >>>>>more precise readings. I checked this by buying an old Simex-type > >>>>>sextant, which subsequently was sold. I have been looking for another > >>>>>Husun with the inverting telescope or another instrument. The Cassens > >>>>>& Plath was the first that came up which was suitable. > >>>>> > >>>>>In comparing the Cassens and Plath to the Husun, I would say, overall, > >>>>>that I prefer the Husun at this time. It's prettier, with the > >>>>>silver-inlayed arc; this increases my fondness for the instrument. > >>>>> > > The > > > >>>>>black crinkle finish is nicer than the Cassens and Plath's. All the > >>>>>screws are varnished or painted brass; there's no aluminum to corrode > >>>>>with steel screws or react with the brass or bronze (There's no > >>>>>corrosion on my Cassens and Plath; it doesn't appear ever to have been > >>>>>used for extended periods). > >>>>> > >>>>>The 2.5x scope on the Husun has a very wide field of view, wider than > >>>>>the 4x "star scope" on the Cassens and Plath. I have seen no optical > >>>>>aberrations in the Husun, while the Cassens and Plath star scope has > >>>>>chromatic aberration, which rather surprised me (reddish fringe on the > >>>>>bottom of the image and bluish fringe on the top). The aberration > >>>>>makes it more difficult to check index error by measuring the sun's > >>>>>semidiameter. > >>>>> > >>>>>The handle on the Husun is straight up and down. This makes some > >>>>>lunars easier, whereas the tilted handle on both brands of Plaths, > >>>>>while it makes looking at the horizon easier on the wrist, makes > >>>>> > > lunars > > > >>>>>more difficult. When holding the instrument between shots or while > >>>>>waiting, the Husun is less fatiguing to hold > >>>>> > >>>>>The star scope on the Husun is in close to the horizon mirror. This > >>>>>centers weight in the instrument, making it less fatiguing to hold. > >>>>>Being close in to the horizon mirror, the smaller mirror does not > >>>>>restrict the field of view of the instrument as much as one might > >>>>>suppose. I suppose the larger mirrors would be "faster" optically, > >>>>>however. > >>>>> > >>>>>The perceived weight of the two instruments is similar. I have not > >>>>>actually weighed them. > >>>>> > >>>>>The lamp on the Husun can be swung around to illuminate my wrist band > >>>>>when recording data. The lamp on the Cassens and Plath is guided to > >>>>>illuminate the scales only, making recording data more difficult. > >>>>> > >>>>>The box on the Husun is significantly smaller than the box on the > >>>>> > > other > > > >>>>>instruments. > >>>>> > >>>>>These are my impressions after two days. > >>>>> > >>>>>Fred > >>>>> > >>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>>>Frederick V. Hebard, PhD Email: > >>>>> > > mailto:Fred@acf.org > > > >>>>>Staff Pathologist, Meadowview Research Farms Web: http://www.acf.org > >>>>>American Chestnut Foundation Phone: (276) 944-4631 > >>>>>14005 Glenbrook Ave. Fax: (276) 944-0934 > >>>>>Meadowview, VA 24361 > >>>>> > >>>>>On Mar 19, 2004, at 5:44 PM, Royer, Doug wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>By the way,do you collect older sextants?Don't you also have some > >>>>>> > > older > > > >>>>>>British equipment you wrote about in the past?Just curious. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>-- > >>>Courtney Thomas > >>>s/v Mutiny > >>>lying Oriental, NC > >>>WDB5619 > >>> > >>> > >> > >>-- > >>Courtney Thomas > >>s/v Mutiny > >>lying Oriental, NC > >>WDB5619 > >> > > > > > -- > Courtney Thomas > s/v Mutiny > lying Oriental, NC > WDB5619