Welcome to the NavList Message Boards.

NavList:

A Community Devoted to the Preservation and Practice of Celestial Navigation and Other Methods of Traditional Wayfinding

Compose Your Message

Message:αβγ
Message:abc
Add Images & Files
    Name or NavList Code:
    Email:
       
    Reply
    Re: Selection of stars in HO249
    From: Robert Gainer
    Date: 2004 Sep 13, 13:36 +0000

    Geoff,
    Does this refer to a choice being made so that the same star will be
    available and on the list for subsequent nights?
    All the best,
    Robert Gainer
    
    
    
    >From: Geoff Butt 
    >Reply-To: Navigation Mailing List 
    >To: NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM
    >Subject: Selection of stars in HO249
    >Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:37:15 +0100
    >
    >Does anyone have any information on how the Selected Stars were chosen for
    >HO249;  particularly with respect to the statement in the Introduction (p
    >iii) 'Continuity was sought in regard to both latitude and hour angle,
    >particularly for latitude where changes are not immediately evident by
    >inspection.'
    >
    >I have been entertaining myself by writing some programmes to calculate
    >daily Almanak-like data from the Meeus algorithms.  As I am calculating
    >data
    >for chosen days it occurred to me that it would be handy to print out a
    >selected star diagram for the morning and evening twilight observing
    >periods. As I was doing that for a specific day I could also plot the
    >position of any planets along with the selected stars.
    >
    >At first the 'rules' for selecting stars seemed fairly simple:
    >- select stars with altitudes between 15 and 65 deg
    >- use 1st mag stars in order of brightness unless they were separated by
    >less than
    >    20 deg
    >- if 7 1st mag stars not available then choose suitable 2nd mag stars to
    >plug the
    >    larger gaps in the azimuth coverage as near uniformly as possible.
    >
    >Comparing the results with the selections published in HO249 I get about
    >60%
    >of the groups I selected agreeing with HO249.  By increasing my number
    >selected to 9 I get closer to including all the HO249 selection.  But
    >examining the differences I can't spot any additional 'rules' for the HO249
    >preference rather than my selections.
    >
    >For example, I interpreted the 'continuity .. with regard to .. latitude'
    >as
    >meaning 'Don't select low altitude stars lying to the North or South'
    >(which
    >would also improve continuity with regard to LHA) - but that doesn't seem
    >to
    >explain the differences.
    >
    >I also thought about giving preference to stars which were more easily
    >identified in the sky.  There seem to be several examples of pairs of stars
    >which are relatively close neighbours and the differences between the
    >selected star lists being the choosing of one rather than the other - but
    >the preference for either is not biased, so ability to identify isn't the
    >criterion.
    >
    >If anyone has any ideas about how properly to interpret 'Continuity ... ' I
    >would be very interested to hear them.
    >
    >Geoff Butt
    
    _________________________________________________________________
    Don�t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
    http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
    
    
    

       
    Reply
    Browse Files

    Drop Files

    NavList

    What is NavList?

    Get a NavList ID Code

    Name:
    (please, no nicknames or handles)
    Email:
    Do you want to receive all group messages by email?
    Yes No

    A NavList ID Code guarantees your identity in NavList posts and allows faster posting of messages.

    Retrieve a NavList ID Code

    Enter the email address associated with your NavList messages. Your NavList code will be emailed to you immediately.
    Email:

    Email Settings

    NavList ID Code:

    Custom Index

    Subject:
    Author:
    Start date: (yyyymm dd)
    End date: (yyyymm dd)

    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site