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    Scaling and stability: Was [Nav-L] 7/8 SCALE SEXTANTS MORE
    From: George Huxtable
    Date: 2004 Aug 2, 23:04 +0100

    Joel Jacobs wrote-
    
    >I do
    >have "Stability and Trim for the Ship's Officer" by La Dadge and Van Gemert
    >handy.
    >
    >On page 35, they move beyond the standard formula Henry presents to the
    >following:
    >
    >Saying "moment of inertia is a difficult term to define simply." and "This
    >moment which resists motion of an infinite number of moments which are
    >composed of the product  of each elementary area and the square of the
    >distance from the axis." (simple?)
    >
    >I = L x B3 / 12 for a rectangular waterplane
    >
    >For non-rectangular waterplanes I = L x B3 x k
    >
    >k is a constant that relates to a waterplane coefficient
    >
    >They conclude that the moment of inertia "is almost wholly dependent on
    >breadth of the vessel."
    
    =================
    
    This is a bit misleading. They are referring to the moment of inertia of a
    thin flat waterplane, about a fore-and-aft axis, such as a raft (if it can
    be said to have a fore-and-aft axis). They assume a constant "surface
    density": that is, assume that the weight per surface are of the raft stays
    constant when other dimensions are changed.
    
    Robert Gainer was describing a rather different situation, in which the
    dimensions of a vessel (which could well be a raft) are ALL scaled up in
    proportion. So, as the breadth of a raft is increased by a certain ratio,
    so is its length increased by that same ratio, and so is the depth
    (vertical thickness) of the raft. And so, therefore , is its weight per
    surface area.
    
    Now the moment of inertia of the raft about a fore-and-aft axis is
    proportional to length x (breadth)cubed x depth. So if you double all the
    dimensions of that raft, you increase the moment of inertia, about its
    fore-and-aft axis, by 2x2x2x2x2, the fifth power of 2, which is a factor of
    32.
    
    Note that before you specify a moment of inertia, you have to specify the
    axis about which the rotation being considered is going to occur. The
    moments of inertia about different axes will be very different. But in all
    cases, when the dimensions of a vessel are all multiplied up by the same
    factor (so that its shape doesn't change), the value of any moment of
    inertia will change by that factor to the fifth power (i.e. multiplied by
    itself 5 times). That's what Robert Gainer was pointing out.
    
    George.
    
    ================================================================
    contact George Huxtable by email at george@huxtable.u-net.com, by phone at
    01865 820222 (from outside UK, +44 1865 820222), or by mail at 1 Sandy
    Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.
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