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    Re: Role of CN at sea, was Re: Averaging sights ...
    From: Ken Gebhart
    Date: 2004 Oct 15, 21:36 -0500

    on 10/15/04 1:45 PM, Robert Gainer at robert_gainer_2{at}HOTMAIL.COM wrote:
    > Herbert Prinz said,
    >> I do not see how one can maintain this attitude in the face of reality. In
    >> my
    >> admittedly very limited experience of ten thousand off shore miles over the
    >> last
    >> ten years I have not ONCE been in a situation where GPS didn't work, but
    >> cel nav
    >> would. In fact, I have not once been in a situation at sea where GPS didn't
    >> work.
    >> Full stop. But I have REPEATEDLY been in situations where celestial was
    >> unavailable for several days in a row and GPS was the only position finding
    >> tool
    >> available. Conclusion: Celestial is not even a backup!
    > Herbert,
    > I almost hate to admit this, but I still only use CN and a taffrail log as
    > my only means of navigation offshore. More then that, I use a 56-hour
    > chronometer. I sail for the pleasure of sailing, if you take all the skill
    > out of it what?s the point to spending all the money to do a trip that can
    > be better made for less cost by air. Take it to the extreme, a radio
    > controlled boat run from your couch at home, what?s the point.
    > I have several trans Atlantics now and there have been many times that CN
    > was not available do to weather. I maintain a plot that is compared to all
    > outside data and can see the effects of current and leeway so I think I can
    > maintain a DR track going forward for several days without any worry.
    > I deal with navigation the same way I deal with sailing without an engine or
    > electric system.  Plan ahead and try not to get into a position where you
    > ?need? either the engine or magic for navigation. They share some of the
    > same goals, stay off lee shores and don?t make landfall under poor
    > conditions. I know how to watch the weather, and time my landfall to avoid
    > bad weather and a foul tide.
    > I take some pride in my skills and have no immediate plans to add any
    > electronics to my boat.
    > All the best,
    > Robert Gainer
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    Thank you for an enlightening and convincing statement of why you do what
    you do. I hear many similar expressions from "wannabes" at the various sail
    boat shows, but hearing it from a real sailor is valued.
    Ken Gebhart

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