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    Re: Relative bearings
    From: Bill B
    Date: 2015 Apr 16, 13:28 -0400

    On 4/16/2015 12:36 AM, Paul Hirose wrote:
    > Unless terminology has changed since WW2, "angle on the bow" doesn't
    > mean relative bearing in submarines. Well, actually it does, but it's
    > the relative bearing from target ship to sub, increasing port and
    > starboard from the target's bow. For instance, port 90 angle on the bow
    > means the sub is on the target's port beam, regardless of the relative
    > bearing *to* the target.
    Thank you Paul. I did indeed post, "Angle on the bow appears to be from
    the observer's bow to the target, while target angle is from the
    target's bow to the observer." I either misread or ran into one of
    "those" sites, which like me, professed knowledge it did not possess.
    After spending a goodly amount of time with the Wikipedia article and
    illustrative photographs trying to reconcile the seemingly contradictory
    results, it suddenly dawned on me that the "Angle on the bow is a
    variation of target angle used by United States Navy submarines"
    statement also referred to the *target* vessel, not the sub. After that
    things fell into place.
    > That meaning is also made clear by former fleet boat skipper Edward
    > Beach in his classic war novel "Run Silent, Run Deep". If you've seen
    > the movie you'll hardly recognize the book, which puts less focus on
    > interpersonal drama and more on technical detail.
    I have not seen the movie or read the book. I did however listen to a
    radio play on a set the size of a dresser in rural Indiana circa 1957. I
    recall the ending was distressing to a young boy.
    There also seems to be a submarine computer simulation by the same name.

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