Welcome to the NavList Message Boards.

NavList:

A Community Devoted to the Preservation and Practice of Celestial Navigation and Other Methods of Traditional Wayfinding

Compose Your Message

Message:αβγ
Message:abc
Add Images & Files
    or...
       
    Reply
    Re: Recreating Bligh's voyage to Timor
    From: George Huxtable
    Date: 2010 May 29, 07:33 +0100

    contact George Huxtable, at  george@hux.me.uk
    or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222)
    or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Peter Fogg" 
    To: 
    Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 1:28 AM
    Subject: [NavList] Re: Recreating Bligh's voyage to Timor
    
    
    | George writes:
    |
    | >
    | > The article refers to Bligh's  "desperate 3600-nautical-mile escape
    from
    | > Tonga to Timor", which is a fiction. Bligh was never closer to Timor
    than
    | > 100 miles or so, passing well to its North. The reference to Timor
    relates
    | > to the point from which the modern expedition intended to depart, and
    is
    | > unrelated to Bligh's voyage.
    | >
    |
    |
    | Are we talking about the same Timor, George? (not that I know of any
    | other).  It has always been my understanding that Bligh's ship's boat
    trip
    | ended at Timor.  They all went on to Batavia, and subsequently very few;
    | only Bligh and a couple of favourites, reached England via other craft.
    | Most of Bligh's crew, after having loyally stuck by Bligh during the
    mutiny,
    | and after having been safely brought across a wide swathe of the Pacific
    in
    | that tiny boat, thanks in no small measure to Bligh's leadership, were
    then
    | callously abandoned by Bligh in Batavia,  where nearly all expired due to
    | various fevers which were endemic there at the time.  Bligh always was,
    if
    | nothing else, an eccentric leader with a fortunately rare ability to so
    | infuriate those he was supposed to be leading that he twice goaded his
    men
    | to mutiny, at a time when this was considered as the most heinous of
    crimes.
    |
    | "To lose one [command, Mr. Bligh], may be regarded as a misfortune; to
    lose
    | both looks like carelessness." as Oscar Wilde so neatly, or nearly, put
    it.
    |
    | Getting back to Timor, the Dutch governor there at the time, Bligh's
    host,
    | was himself dying of fever while entertaining Bligh, who paid for his
    supper
    | by recounting tales of the Pacific, which the governor had never visited
    and
    | had only the sketchiest notions about.  Very few Europeans had ever
    visited
    | the South Pacific at that time, and it was still a place of fancy rather
    | than fact.
    |
    | Went looking online for some support for this apparently widespread
    notion
    | that Bligh did reach Timor as the terminus of that trip, and share just a
    | few links quickly found: (if I am wrong then no doubt you will set me
    right,
    | George, although if I am right I expect nothing more, based on previous
    vast
    | experience, than your silence):
    |
    | "After *Bligh* and his crew of 18 made an epic and eventful journey in
    the
    | small boat to *Timor* in the Dutch East Indies, he returned to the United
    | Kingdom and..."
    | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutiny_on_the_Bounty
    |
    | "...Royal Navy Commanding Lieutenant William *Bligh* and 17 other
    | crewmembers from the HMS Bounty reached the island of *Timor* after ..."
    | mattstodayinhistory.blogspot.com/.../*bligh*-arrives-at-*timor*
    | -mutiny-on-bounty.html
    |
    | "After an epic 6 weeks' voyage, *Bligh* reached *Timor* in the East
    Indies,
    | having traveled 3618 miles in an open longboat."
    | www.answers.com/topic/william-*bligh* -
    |
    | "*Bligh's* Open Boat Voyage to *Timor*: a marvellous feat of
    seamanship..."
    | www.eoas.info/bib/HASB02142.htm
    |
    | "William *Bligh* dated Coupang in *Timor* August 18th 1789 addressed to
    | Philip Stephens Esq., Secretary of the Admiralty was read as follows viz:
    *
    | ...*"
    | www.fatefulvoyage.com/trial/trial00*Bligh*Letter.html
    |
    | This last apparently refers to a letter written by Bligh while in Timor,
    at
    | the now Indonesian town spelled these days Kupang, at the Dutch end of
    the
    | island of Timor.  The eastern part was the Portuguese colony of East
    Timor,
    | and is now the independent nation of the same name (in English, at any
    | rate).
    |
    | If I am wrong then no doubt you will set me right, George, although if I
    am
    | right I expect nothing more, based on previous vast experience, than your
    | silence.  Is it not so?
    |
    
    
    
    
    

       
    Reply
    Browse Files

    Drop Files

    NavList

    What is NavList?

    Join NavList

    Name:
    (please, no nicknames or handles)
    Email:
    Do you want to receive all group messages by email?
    Yes No

    You can also join by posting. Your first on-topic post automatically makes you a member.

    Posting Code

    Enter the email address associated with your NavList messages. Your posting code will be emailed to you immediately.
    Email:

    Email Settings

    Posting Code:

    Custom Index

    Subject:
    Author:
    Start date: (yyyymm dd)
    End date: (yyyymm dd)

    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site