Welcome to the NavList Message Boards.

NavList:

A Community Devoted to the Preservation and Practice of Celestial Navigation and Other Methods of Traditional Wayfinding

Compose Your Message

Message:αβγ
Message:abc
Add Images & Files
    Name or NavList Code:
    Email:
       
    Reply
    Re: Question on geocentric to heliocentric conversion
    From: Marcel Tschudin
    Date: 2011 Jun 10, 12:39 +0300
    After a second thougth: Yes, for your measurements the difference between topocentric and geocentric are likely to be negligible. You can verify the level of your gnomon set-up and the heliocentric coordinates by using the data from http://www.calsky.com/

    Define under the "Intro"-tab your location and set the experience to "Astronomer". Select then the "Sun"-tab and next the "Apparent view/Data". Enter date and time of your gnomon readings and press "go". You should now have all data you need.

    Marcel



    On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Marcel Tschudin <marcel.e.tschudin@gmail.com> wrote:
    George, I'm not really sure what you aim at. Could there be some misunderstandings? With a gnomon you take *topocentric* measurements. Geocentric refers to the center of the earth and heliocentric to the center of the sun. The accuracy of measurements taken with a gnomon depend on how much the surface is leveled and the gnomon at right angle to it. I question whether your ground surface was really leveled. An artificial horizon might have been a better choice.

    Marcel




    On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:33 AM, G Becker <george@gwbeckerpls.com> wrote:

    Hello, I mostly lurk here.. but I have a question.

    Today, I stuck a 1/2" rebar into the ground as a gnomon and recorded the bearing and distance of the shadows over a few hours time. I used a 3" robotic total station, so the bearings and distances are very accurate. What I am looking for is the heliocentric ease/west. I have the geocentric state plane coordinates for the gnomon, the height of the gnomon, the beginning mid and end times of measurements, and the geocentric bearings and distances of the shadows. Am I on a wild goose chase doing it this way, or can the heliocentric east/west direction be found with the information I provided. Please look at the attached 2 page pdf file for a the graphic information. Any comments would be appreciated.

    Thanks,
    George
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    NavList message boards and member settings: www.fer3.com/NavList
    Members may optionally receive posts by email.
    To cancel email delivery, send a message to NoMail[at]fer3.com
    ----------------------------------------------------------------



       
    Reply
    Browse Files

    Drop Files

    NavList

    What is NavList?

    Get a NavList ID Code

    Name:
    (please, no nicknames or handles)
    Email:
    Do you want to receive all group messages by email?
    Yes No

    A NavList ID Code guarantees your identity in NavList posts and allows faster posting of messages.

    Retrieve a NavList ID Code

    Enter the email address associated with your NavList messages. Your NavList code will be emailed to you immediately.
    Email:

    Email Settings

    NavList ID Code:

    Custom Index

    Subject:
    Author:
    Start date: (yyyymm dd)
    End date: (yyyymm dd)

    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site