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    Re: QE2 grounding (was: Mercator vs. Great Circle)
    From: John Germain
    Date: 2001 Aug 29, 9:55 PM

    "Rude, Rude, Rude
    
    This is Dinghy "Windup"
    
    Presently embarrassing your course and  becalmed..
    
    Requesting your assistance..
    
    Rude, Rude, Rude,
    
    This is Windup
    
    Over.."
    
    
    
    
    
    > ** Original Subject: QE2 grounding (was: Mercator vs. Great Circle)
    > ** Original Sender: "Richard B. Emerson" 
    > ** Original Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 03:29:47 +0100
    
    > ** Original Message follows...
    
    >
    > Rodney's right, the QE2 grounding was not a GPS error or trusting to
    > (incorrect) instruments.  Also, it's the "Rude" (actually the [Given
    > name something] Rude, pronounced "Roody" as I found when I spoke her
    > last summer off Block Island).  I think the ship's named after a
    > geographer or oceanographer but I wouldn't care to bet on that.
    >
    > Rick
    > S/V One With The Wind, Baba 35
    >
    > Smith_Peter@EMC.COM writes:
    >  > Rodney Myrvaagnes [mailto:rodneym@ATTGLOBAL.NET] said:
    >  > > Please, Rick. You larger point is well taken, but you are confusing
    >  > > the QE2 with other vessels that did what you said. The QE2 was
    >  > > another problem entirely.
    >  > >
    >  > > The one that grounded off Nantucket was doing automatic ded reckoning
    >  > > almost all the way from Bermuda, because nobody looked at the computer.
    >  > > I feel pretty sure it started blinking as soon as the GPS > became
    >  > disconnected.
    >  >
    >  > Actually, I think Rodney is thinking of the _Royal Majesty_ which went
    >  > aground on the Nantucket Shoals in June 1995 due to an unnoticed GPS
    >  > failure.
    >  >
    >  > The _QE2_ nicked the ground in August 1992 near Sow and Pigs Reef at
    >  > the entrance of Vineyard Sound (west of Martha's Vineyard which is west
    >  > of Nantucket). What made it worse was that they knew exactly where
    >  > they were and overruled the local pilot. The pilot suggested a course
    >  > that kept them in deep water, but the captain was trying to make up
    >  > time and chose to cut the corner, believing the charted depth (39 feet
    >  > from the 1939 survey) to be sufficient (_QE2_ draws 32 feet).
    >  >
    >  > After the incident, the US Coast Guard dispatched the survey vessel
    >  > _RULE_ to re-survey the area. In keeping with current practice, the
    >  > rock they found (with the QE2's bottom paint on it) was provisionally
    >  > named "Rule's Ledge", but locals are lobbying to get it named "The
    >  > Queen's Bottom".
    >  >
    >  >  -- Peter
    
    >** --------- End Original Message ----------- **
    
    >
    
    John Germain
    Jersey
    British Channel Islands
    

       
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