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Re: Propulsion power: was [Nav-L] Barrels
From: Doug Royer
Date: 2005 Jan 19, 15:43 -0800
From: Doug Royer
Date: 2005 Jan 19, 15:43 -0800
These are abstractions that are only approximately met by real ships, which don't always read the theory books. And it's only very roughly true to assume that engine and screw efficiencies and slip remain constant over such a wide speed range. For example, a diesel running at a certain rpm, even under no-load conditions on the shaft, requires to develop a certain minimum power just to keep itself turning, because it has to chuff through itself a constant volume of air per second, compress it and spit it out. So that results in a diesel's efficiency being near maximum at close to its designed running speed, and falling at lower speeds and torques. These are all good points. It would, then, be a very poor approximation to imagine that power would be proportional to ship's speed. In answer to the exam question, Doug appears to be presuming a cube-law, or something very close to it, rather as was guessed-at above. I don't know if I'm presuming the cube-law or not.I'll post my proceedure tomorrow and you guys decide. It was interesting that Doug's question presumed a propellor slip value of only 2%. I had always though that ship's propellors slipped much more than that, but it seems I was wrong, or very out-of-date. Is 2% slip a realistic value for the prop of a modern merchant vessel? Doug probably knows. I tried to warn you that these C.G. exam questions sometimes have no real relationship with the real world.Don't give undue signifacance to any of the numbers in the question.They're just quantities some gov. employee plugged into the question and really have no base in reality.The method used to get the correct answer is what's important.I just used it because I understand what they want and thought it the easiest example to show fuel consumption. You guys are doing a better job then I in explaining or examining this stuff. Just be careful with what you guys are calling prop slip.There are positive and negative quantities to slip.Each seperate prop has 1 but not the other. 2 % slip would be simply outstanding.You are correct in your assumption.Between 4 - 7 % would be more realistic.