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Proof of voyaging from Polynesia to South America
From: Peter Fogg
Date: 2007 Jun 7, 14:05 +1000
From: Peter Fogg
Date: 2007 Jun 7, 14:05 +1000
Earlier I wrote, while at work trying to do a few other things at the same time: "If Ipomoea batatas did come from South America and spread across the Pacific it may be evidence of westerly movement; the Thor Heyerdahl proposition." What Heyerdahl (and others) have shown is that if you can launch some floating artefact, such as a raft, from the appropriate latitude on the Pacific coast then, so long as the thing stays afloat long enough, there is a reasonable chance you will end up somewhere in the Polynesian world. No great sailing, and even less navigational prowess is required, although a high boredom threshold could be useful, I imagine. To make the return trip is another matter. Even today sailing upwind for thousands of miles is a hard ask, and enjoyed only be masochists who have craft capable of this punishment. Could the Polynesians do this in their vessels? No. In any case we know they had more sense. Sailing directions that have survived to the present for the run between the Polynesian heartland and Hawaii involve making a great dog's leg to take advantage of prevailing winds and currents. However, the idea that the Polynesians were skilled and resourceful sailors and navigators has been pooh-poohed, both here (rather the old list) and elsewhere. No, no, no, we are told, they were just poor primitive creatures who were washed out to sea while fishing offshore and ended up in New Zealand, for example, months later. Just as well then that they had the foresight to include their women and pigs and yams and coconuts and all the rest on that fateful day outing, together with the other ships and men that accompanied them on that accidental migration. As if. As Fred puts it: "That the Polynesians reached as far as Hawaii and Easter Islands also suggests that they would have little difficulty reaching South America." Yep. And if they could sail to New Zealand they could have made landfall on the Australian coast as well. But where is the proof of such skill, knowledge, intention and experience? ask the Doubting Thomases. The proof, newly discovered, may lie within the bones of this Chilean chicken. The Polynesian route to the east that is feasible, albeit challenging enough, that accords with common sense and is not contradicted by what we know of their navigational capacities, involves sailing south towards a vast region where there is no land at all, before running to the east long enough - although not too far - to be able to turn again to the north, taking advantage of the north setting current that runs up the Pacific coast of South America. To ask all that of a storm is a bit much. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to NavList@fer3.com To , send email to NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---