Welcome to the NavList Message Boards.

NavList:

A Community Devoted to the Preservation and Practice of Celestial Navigation and Other Methods of Traditional Wayfinding

Compose Your Message

Message:αβγ
Message:abc
Add Images & Files
    or...
       
    Reply
    Re: Precomputed lunar distances
    From: Frank Reed
    Date: 2005 Apr 18, 00:16 EDT

    Bill you wrote:
    "Two sides of a spherical  triangle meeting at the
    zenith. Both start off almost perpendicular to the  horizon and progressively
    arc in to the zenith.  So from the *observers*  frame of reference,
    refraction is acting up and in, less up and more in the  higher the bodies."
    
    I have a hunch that you're picturing a sort of  "perspective drawing" of a
    spherical triangle in which it might appear as if the  refraction is acting "in"
    or sideways. It's important to picture a spherical  triangle from the
    perspective of the observer. The arcs (sides) of a spherical  triangle are not
    curved. If you draw a spherical triangle with corners at the  zenith and two
    arbitrary stars, all three sides look *exactly* straight as seen  by the observer.
    Gou outside tonight and point at Spica. Now trace the side of  the spherical
    triangle that connects Spica to the zenith. You finger should  trace a line
    across the sky that looks (to you) exactly straight and exactly  vertical. Next
    point at Antares. Trace the side of the triangle from Antares to  the zenith.
    Your arm should rise straight and vertical. Finally trace the side  from Antares
    to Spica. Your finger should move straight across the sky. How does
    refraction affect these triangle sides?? It lifts each star entirely vertically  and so
    entirely within the two sides that lead to the zenith. There's no  component
    perpendicular to those sides. Make sense?? And of course, the distance
    between the stars is reduced by refraction even through the refraction is
    completely in the vertical  direction.
    
    -FER
    http://www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars
    
    
    

       
    Reply
    Browse Files

    Drop Files

    NavList

    What is NavList?

    Join NavList

    Name:
    (please, no nicknames or handles)
    Email:
    Do you want to receive all group messages by email?
    Yes No

    You can also join by posting. Your first on-topic post automatically makes you a member.

    Posting Code

    Enter the email address associated with your NavList messages. Your posting code will be emailed to you immediately.
    Email:

    Email Settings

    Posting Code:

    Custom Index

    Subject:
    Author:
    Start date: (yyyymm dd)
    End date: (yyyymm dd)

    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site