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Re: Precision of lunars
From: Frank Reed CT
Date: 2007 Apr 21, 22:47 -0700
From: Frank Reed CT
Date: 2007 Apr 21, 22:47 -0700
Alex E, you wrote: "Let me first cite a great authority, Lord Kelvin" Although he was a great authority on late 19th century navigation, Lord Kelvin was absolutely NOT an authority on lunars. The lecture you're quoting from was delivered in 1875. This is forty or fifty years after lunars ceased being used even as a backup measure aboard British ships and twenty to thirty years after they ceased that role aboard American vessels. It's clear from the lecture that Kelvin was trying to warn young navigators not to be seduced by the stuffy old advocates of lunars who still enforced their teaching in navigation schools. In fact, his principal astronomical suggestion to navigators has nothing to do with lunars: his suggestion is that they should all be using Sumner's method instead of the methods that are usually used aboard ship in 1875. As we've discussed previously on the list, even decades after Sumner's method was published, the great majority of navigators were still shooting separate sights for latitude and longitude --they just didn't see the merit of Sumner's method over the common meridian sights for latitude and time sights for longitude. There's a moment in the lecture where you can almost see him standing there: Kelvin announces that he is publishing some tables (indeed he did) to help facilitate Sumner's method and he says "I hold in my hand copies of these tables which are soon to be published" (or words to that effect). Kelvin is dismissive of lunars for the same reason that Lecky was dismissive of them at about the same time. Everybody with common sense knew very well that the best backup for the chronometer was another chronometer. It was rather silly that all those poor students were still studying lunar distance calculations so many decades after they had fallen out of use. Kelvin is simply repeating the "common perception" of the accuracy of lunars decades after they were commonly used. He is not describing his own research or saying anything about the fundamental accuracy of sextants. Somewhere along this thread you speculated that Lord Kelvin had access to better ephemerides for the Moon than those available in the official almanacs. No way... Exceedingly unlikely. There were very few people on Earth who dealt with modelling the Moon's motion, and Kelvin would have had no reason to hunt down that research since it was irrelevant to his practical advice to navigators. I would add that the nautical almanacs were improved just a few short years after Kelvin's lecture and the inaccuracy due to the almanac data went away. Lecky notes this improvement in his book, but of course, it was too little, too late. -FER --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to NavList@fer3.com To , send email to NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---