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    Re: Port Royal
    From: Henry Halboth
    Date: 2009 Jul 25, 08:58 -0700

     

    Greg,

     

    I think I know what you are looking for. At one time the US Navy issued a rather solid and substantial plastic Station Pointer – about 10” in diameter, marked in degrees, fitted with a center metallic marking fitting; with rather short arms; the moveable arms being clampable, and all stowed in a heavy cardboard pocketed folding black envelope – actually a worthwhile compromise instrument This to be differentiated from a rather cheaply designed commercial model with an approximately 6” center rose and long floppy arms and no clamping devices. The USN also once issued a quality brass instrument with silver arc, long adjustable arms, and vernier adjusted setting arrangement.

     

    I keep track of available navigation instruments and have not seen either the Navy plastic or metal station pointers offered for sale in a long time; they are apparently pretty scarce. Russian and British metal Station Pointers are frequently offered for sale on ebay and are apparently similar to the Navy high quality metal instrument, but usually close inspection of photos provided appear to evidence derangements in the area of setting verniers – prices usually range from $100 to $200.

     

    Happy hunting.

     

    Henry

    --- On Sat, 7/25/09, Greg Rudzinski <gregrudzinski---.com> wrote:


    From: Greg Rudzinski <gregrudzinski---.com>
    Subject: [NavList 9220] Re: Port Royal
    To: "NavList" <NavList@fer3.com>
    Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 10:30 AM


    Byron,

    I have been looking for a US Navy three arm protractor/station pointer
    (plastic with arms that screw down) without any luck. Would you happen
    to know where to get surplus or retired US Navy navigation plotting
    tools and the like?

    Greg

    On Jul 24, 7:32 pm, navigation <byron...---.com> wrote:
    > I know noting about the Port Royal grounding, I am a Master Chief
    > Quartermaster ret, that have Navigation Technques named after
    > me.Franklin piloting, Franklin continuious Radar and also Special
    > Rardar. Bowditch NO9 & Radar NO 1310. I still teach Navigation and
    > write about the subject. The Navy run by instructions: in the Surface
    > Ship Navigation Department regulation Manual. " To facilitatle this
    > transision to electronic navigation, all ships may use GPS as their
    > primary fix source in all waters. This dose not preclude the
    > navigation team to ascertain the ship's position by other means
    > (visual, radar, etc) as required and at no greater than every third
    > fix interval in restricted waters. No one fix source shall be solely
    > relied upon." It dose go on.
    > In my opinon it is the restricted water that the best men in the
    > visual plot taking bearing and marking the chart keeps a safe ship.
    > Bowditch is heavy now on the electronics and low on the plot, because
    > they are easy to use, The team must know visual bearings and the
    > mechanics of the plot, to relie on themselves and not the black box of
    > no notathing. My technique were developed because of ships runing
    > agound. They were taught at various Navy navigation schools I don't
    > think they are taught now that we trust the box?

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