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Re: POL and arctan2
From: Bill B
Date: 2005 Nov 10, 20:04 -0500
From: Bill B
Date: 2005 Nov 10, 20:04 -0500
>> In the polar-rectangular conversion formula, we know that, by definition, R >> squared = x squared + y squared.and that... > > George > > I do not have a final solution yet, but I think I have my finger on the > problem. > > Executive summary: Your gray matter is far superior to any computing > device. You can think outside of the box. A computing device, even one > with an expert system, can only do what it has been programmed to do (albeit > quickly). It cannot think outside of the box (with the possible exception > of using an inference engine etc. for artificial intelligence). The key > being the rectangular-to-polar (R-to-P) and polar-to-rectangular routines > are designed as two-dimensional (2D) routines. While your clever equation > manipulates it into doing your bidding in three dimensions for finding > azimuth (you are thinking outside the box) it is still limited to thinking > inside the 2D box. (Which I will get to later). > > In using the method you provided with inputs of Lat 40N, LHA's of 30, 60, > 70, and 330, and declinations of 10 and -10, the first number returned was > (with one rounding error exception) less than 1.0. Which caused me to > wonder if it was a trig function, hence my curiosity. > > When I calculated Hc for the above inputs, it was consistently close to, but > greater than, the cosine-1 of the first number returned. A pattern was > emerging. It follows the sine-1 of the first number returned was close to > but larger than the compliment of Hc. > > I wondered why? Is it possible the R-to-P was "thinking" in 2D and I needed > to dumb-down a bit and operate on its level? (Not too hard for me) I > reasoned a great circle on a sphere was a just a circle in two dimensions. > What could be close to the same but not? Could the chord of an arc come into > play? > > As a sanity check (and I state up front it is a circular argument) I used > the compliment of Hc to determine distance from position to GP. I then > divided that distance by 21600 (the circumference of a circle with 60 nm per > d) and multiplied by 360 to put it back into degrees. As one would expect, > the resulting angle was equal to the compliment of the Hc I started with. > > Then I calculated the chord subtending the distance arc using the complement > of the Hc angle, a radius of 21600/2pi, and the law of cosines. Next I > divided the length of the chord by 21600 and multiplied by 360 to put it > back in to degrees. And guess what? The sine of that angle matches the > sine of the first figure the R-to-P routine spits out. > > I hope I have the words for the concept straight , but you see the idea > nonetheless. The next question is what to do with that information ;-) > > Bill