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    Re: Oblique Ascension.
    From: Mike Hannibal
    Date: 2005 Aug 30, 11:02 +1000

    Hi Alexandre,
    I'll try to avoid the labels 
    I think that you mistake my point: I agree violently
    with you about the value that science has delivered.
    Yes life expectancy increased by about 35 years during
    the course of last century. Yes we understand the
    mechanisms of disease in a way we would not otherwise,
    as we recognise all sorts of other material - DNA and
    molecular genetics, quantum physics...
    None of that is at question. I however, to use a label
    for myself, am not an absolutist. I believe that
    science is a framework that provides tremendous value
    for us. It is a useful and effective framework of
    rules and beliefs.
    I do not therefore wish to argue aginst the theory of
    gravitation....a theory is after all an explanation
    for a phenomenon that an observer describes. In this
    case the theory, the explanation, fits very well to
    the observed phenomenon, it has utility.
    In other cicumstances that may not be so. In other
    circumstances an alternative framework of explanation
    may operate with greater utility.
    We should always have our eyes open to this
    Kind regards
    --- Alexandre E Eremenko 
    > Mike,
    > On Tue, 30 Aug 2005, Mike Hannibal wrote:
    > > Hi Alexandre,
    > > just the response that you would expect from a
    > > positivist scientist!
    > I don't like to be labeled:-) Frankly speaking...
    > I hate phoilosophers... with very few exceptions.
    > >However I disagree
    > >entirely - my
    > > truth is not the same as your truth 
    > There is no such thing as "your truth" or "my truth"
    > in this question.
    > There is THE TRUTH.
    > Which of the scientifically established truth's you
    > object specifically?
    > Archimedes law? I propose a bet (on any amount you
    > choose) and we
    > make a joint experiment in a bathtub to verify that
    > it is correct.
    > Newton's gravitation Law? Same. Or you are always
    > welcome to test it
    > by jumping from the window of my office.
    > Maybe Kepler Laws?
    > Anyway, just tell me what scientific statement looks
    > doibtful to
    > you and we will try to test it.
    > Alex.
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