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Re: Oblique Ascension.
From: Frank Reed CT
Date: 2005 Aug 28, 06:31 EDT
From: Frank Reed CT
Date: 2005 Aug 28, 06:31 EDT
Peter, you wrote: "As to astrology being 'nonsenses'; I wouldn't know, not having studied the subject. Isn't the essence of rational thought not jumping to conclusions without evidence? Isn't taking a fixed position, perhaps based on prejudice, and refusing to look beyond it, something the whole scientific revolution has tried to move beyond?" I can't speak for George, whose post you were responding to, but I certainly have explored astrology in some detail myself applying the standards of science as I understand them. And having done that, I have no problem calling astrology 'nonsense'. It's a flavor of numerology. But this brings us to an interesting conundrum... How do you know that any "mainstream" topic in science is not "nonsense"? Let's take, as a random example, fluid dynamics. It's mostly classical physics in the extreme, and I can't think of any reason to be skeptical of its basic conclusions --it's about as mainstrem as you can get. But why do you believe in it as a science and not, to pick another random example, homeopathic medicine?? Have you studied it yourself (and if you have, pick another comparable example)? Although rational thought and personal experimentation are a big part of science, in the end, you and I cannot personally test each and every theory. So do we adopt an absurd agnosticism in which subjects outside our personal experience are unknown to us? Or can we accept that there is a certain division of labor in science, and if I find something nonsensical, you also have a basis for finding it nonsensical? I believe that this is actually what people do in the real world of science, but it's a bit removed from the utopian vision of scientific proof. As I say, it's a conundrum. -FER 42.0N 87.7W, or 41.4N 72.1W. www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars