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Re: Northeast passage. was:Polar Possessions of the SU.
From: Alexandre Eremenko
Date: 2004 Oct 25, 16:40 -0500
From: Alexandre Eremenko
Date: 2004 Oct 25, 16:40 -0500
Dear George, While you were writing this, I posted some web reference: (14:59:09 EDT). It seems that my memories of 1960-s are not precise:-( The ships do pass the whole way now in one navigation. Moreover, apparently the modern icebreakers make it navigable around the year. Sorry, I just did not follow the development since late 60-s. Your guess was right: Dudinka does not freeze because of the powerful Enisei current. Which is surprising for me: Enisei itself DOES freeze, as almost all rivers in Russia do:-) I've actually traveled to many of these places in 1960-s, as a child, including Archangelsk, Murmansk and Dudinka. (On passenger cruise ships. The scientists/professors were in so high esteem in SU at that time, and so well-payed, that my father could afford such cruise with his family every summer:-) But the travel on Enisei was in July, and we were told that some tours visit Dudinka and some don't, depending on whether there is ICE or not! This I remember clearly. So I was surprised to read on the web that Dudinka is open the whole year now. Alex. On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, George Huxtable wrote: > After saying that I wished to know more about this topic, Alex Eremenko > kindly replied- > > >After I touched this topic, I soon realize > >that this can be almost completely unknown > >in the West. For example, my Encyclopaedia > >Brittanica of 1960 does not mention ANY Soviet > >activities in the Arctic. Unfortunately all I read > >on the subject, I read while in Soviet Union, that is > >20-30 years ago, so I can rely on my memory only. > >If there is interest to it, I can try to find > >some literature here in the US. > > If you can find any such references, Alex, I would be most grateful, if > only to fill in my immense area of ignorance about this matter. > > He added, about vessels that were forced to overwinter- > > >They had several harbors on the way to spend the winter. > >Dikson and Dudinka are the names that first come to my mind. > > Does that imply that the fresh water of the Yenisei river was sufficiently > ice-free, even in the depths of Russian winter? Such a question betrays my > ignorance of Siberian geography, I fear. > > What happens to the crews over the winter? > > I bet that's a trade that Doug Royer is pleased not to be in! > > Another question that I wonder about is this- > > With the great draught of modern shipping, are there sufficiently deep > passages South of the islands such as Novaya Zemlya, Severnaya Zemlya, > Novosibirskiye Ostrova? Or must the trade route pass North of, or perhaps > through, these island groups? I recall that in Nansen's passage in "Fram" > he had to compromise, finding an ice-free path near the mainland, > presumably the result of the warmed freshwater summer outflow from the > river drainage. On the other hand, near the mainland he was bedevilled by > shoals and islands, presumably the result of that same outflow from those > great rivers. How does the modern trade route solve those problems, I > wonder? > > Nuclear power does seem appropriate for an icebreaker, which requires > immense driving power, consuming great quantities of fuel, yet needs to > remain in non-stop action through the summer season without the need to > return to port to refuel. > > George. > > ================================================================ > contact George Huxtable by email at george@huxtable.u-net.com, by phone at > 01865 820222 (from outside UK, +44 1865 820222), or by mail at 1 Sandy > Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK. > ================================================================ >