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    Re: Navlist happening
    From: Frank Reed
    Date: 2010 Nov 22, 20:39 -0800

    Hello George.

    After his last outburst, in which he attacked various people, Douglas Denny told me that he would ignore any rules about posting, and declared that he didn't care to be part of this group anyway (and let's be clear -- this was the third time that Douglas Denny announced that he was 'not interested in being a member of a club that would have somebody like him as a member' --paraphrasing a famous comedian). I then emailed him and told him that his posting privileges were suspended for seven days. NOTE: these were ONLY his posting privileges from the NavList message boards. His email access was never affected. He is fibbing if he has said that he received no notice of this. This was not a "spanking", just a time-out. He then sent two more long-winded, incompetent rants, attacking me personally, and also ignoring everything that has been written to him about the navigation issues at hand, and demanded that they be posted to NavList, despite being told that he had a seven-day vacation. If I failed to post them, this would qualify as "censorship" or so he said (last December, another NavList member, whom I won't name publicly, asserted that I was comparable to the People's Republic of China since I had "censored" his NavList messages --that case was actually an issue involving Google Groups and part of the reason I moved us off of that service). After receiving those two rants and realizing that Denny had not calmed down at all, I decided he needed another week off. After that, his posting privileges were restored. UNDERSTOOD? He can post right now. His posts will, however, be moderated for some brief period of time.

    I note that neither you nor Denny emailed me off-list to inquire. Why would that be, George?? Douglas Denny did not ask to have his posting privileges restored (though they have been already for over a week). I'm surprised by that if he's really so interested in posting something. From you, however, it's not really that much of a surprise. You're well-known for taking pleasure in dirty laundry.

    NOW, why didn't I "inform NavList" of this seven-day vacation for Mr. Denny? First, because it was quite temporary. Many people on NavList go a week or two without posting including me, and you, yourself, George. Second, and more importantly, because it's not public business. It's most unfortunate that you have chosen to make it public rather than just asking me off-list.

    By the way, this is only the second person on NavList, in the four years that I've been managing it, whose posting privileges have EVER been suspended for any period of time (So Douglas, that's a feather you can stick in your cap). As I have explained many times, banning or suspending people is almost completely ineffective since only email addresses can be blocked, not people. The other person was suspended a bit more permanently and this ALSO without informing NavList members generally. So, George Huxtable, see if you can guess who that other person was... someone near and dear to your heart... Do not post your guess to NavList, but you're welcome to email me OFF-LIST if you wish to thank me. Just a reminder, my preferred email: FrankReed[at]HistoricalAtlas.com.

    -FER


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