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    Re: Navlist coutesy Re: was: Star-star distances for arc error
    From: Greg R_
    Date: 2009 Jun 26, 14:06 -0700

    Funny that Mr. Huxtable would attempt to lecture others on the NavList about 
    "common courtesy" (especially given his own history of trolling, personal 
    attacks on other list members, and the crying "foul" whenever he's called on 
    it), much less attack the owner and moderator of the List (whose opinions I 
    think most of us respect and whose work on maintaining the List often goes 
    Tsk, tsk - shame on you, George. 
    --- On Fri, 6/26/09, George Huxtable  wrote:
    > From: George Huxtable 
    > Subject: [NavList 8809] Navlist coutesy Re:[NavList 8795] was: Star-star distances for arc error
    > To: NavList@fer3.com
    > Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 2:26 AM
    > There has recently been some sort of concord, between Frank
    > and me, about 
    > aspects of star-star distances, and also about the effects
    > of magnification 
    > on eye danger. That seemed an unnatural state of affairs,
    > and here I am 
    > bringing it to an end.
    > Instead, I wish to deal with a matter of list-courtesy.
    > It's a matter I have 
    > raised before, to no avail, about Frank Reed's postings.
    > When putting together a posting to Navlist, my own
    > practice, and I suggest 
    > that of most other contributors, is to download any waiting
    > postings just 
    > before pressing "send", to see if the same point has
    > recently been made by 
    > another. If so, either I desist from sending, as there's no
    > point in 
    > cluttering the list with the same matter being repeated. Or
    > I may wish to 
    > expand on, or endorse, or argue with, what's been said
    > already, in which 
    > case I acknowledge the previous contribution, usually
    > providing a 
    > message-number as a handy link to it. Sometimes, I fail,
    > but that's the aim.
    > Frank's recent postings illustrate his own practice.
    > Whether or not the same 
    > thing has been said by another, Frank goes ahead and says
    > it again, without 
    > acknowledgment. Frank, read your own mailing-list, before
    > you press send. 
    > Acknowledge what's been said before, if you're going to
    > repeat it. Do as the 
    > rest of us seem to manage to do. It's common courtesy, to
    > the list as a 
    > whole.
    > ==========================
    > Another matter of common courtesy is the introduction of
    > personal stuff into 
    > what ought to be technical content.
    > Those words, in [6761], "A sure indication that you have
    > never tried it!" 
    > were unwise and provocative.
    > In [8794], he's at it again, with -
    > "But you haven't really tried anything, have you? Have you
    > experimented with 
    > measuring a complete set of angles around the horizon
    > (another method of 
    > checking arc error)? Have you tried observing lunars (still
    > another method 
    > which many people find more successful than star-star
    > disstances)? Ya know, 
    > everybody is entitled to an opinion, but opinions should be
    > based on 
    > empirical facts, not speculations."
    > Other listmembers manage to say what they think, without
    > resorting to such 
    > language. There are better ways to say such things. As list
    > manager, Frank 
    > should be setting a hetter example.
    > Frank's references to Douglas' political interests were
    > completely 
    > irrelevant to any question of navigation, demonstrating no
    > more than Frank's 
    > readiness to make and misuse a Google search.
    > As far as factual matters relevant to navigation are
    > concerned, we should be 
    > quite ruthless in exposing and correcting error, though we
    > should do our 
    > best to avoid being offensive in doing so. It's a difficult
    > line to tread. 
    > End of sermon.
    > George.
    > contact George Huxtable, at  george{at}hux.me.uk
    > or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222)
    > or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX,
    > UK.
    > > 
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