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Re: Navigation exercise
From: Andr�s Ruiz
Date: 2008 May 29, 08:54 +0200
From: Andr�s Ruiz
Date: 2008 May 29, 08:54 +0200
few remarks: Velocity & speed: as a vector physical quantity. The scalar absolute value of the velocity vector is speed, and direction is required to define it. The relation between vessel's motion, and Sun motion is not arithmetic, is a composition of the two motions, a vector composition. The arithmetic you explained is a first approach. Running fixes (or DR): to move one position to another, an inertial reference frame is needed, the ground is adopted usually. So the speed for all the calculations is the SOG, (Speed Over Ground) that is the vessel speed corrected by the effects of Current, Set & drift. Wind, Leeway, only change the direction of the velocity vector of the vessel. In vector notation V over ground = V vessel + V current Andr�s Ruiz http://www.geocities.com/andresruizgonzalez -----Mensaje original----- De: NavList@fer3.com [mailto:NavList@fer3.com] En nombre de George Huxtable Enviado el: mi�rcoles, 28 de mayo de 2008 16:31 Para: NavList@fer3.com Asunto: [NavList 5173] Re: Navigation exercise ..., with due allowance made for any errors in ship's speed and course through the water and rate and direction of tidal set, stating the precision with which they need to be known. ... -----Mensaje original----- De: NavList@fer3.com [mailto:NavList@fer3.com] En nombre de frankreed@HistoricalAtlas.net Enviado el: mi�rcoles, 28 de mayo de 2008 14:08 Para: NavList@fer3.com Asunto: [NavList 5169] Re: Navigation exercise ... The great part, George, is that you JUST DEMONSTRATED how easy it is to make the correction. Run your example in reverse: take the observed altitudes, SUBTRACT the effect of the vessel's motion, and then you have the altitudes that would be observed by a motionless observer. It is indeed an EASY process. We could teach a child to do it. The arithmetic and the concepts are that simple. You worried that we have to include not just the speed of the ship through the water (which is readily available in any modern vessel) but also currents and the changing declination of the Sun... ... And there will be an error if there are unknown currents: a four knot current after four hours would lead to a position error of 16 n.m. in a STANDARD running fix, if that current is not taken into account. This is a property of ALL running fixes, not a flaw with the particular method under discussion here. ... --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Navigation List archive: www.fer3.com/arc To post, email NavList@fer3.com To , email NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---