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Re: Navigation Weekend: summary and thanks
From: Frank Reed
Date: 2008 Jun 22, 19:38 -0400
From: Frank Reed
Date: 2008 Jun 22, 19:38 -0400
Ken, you wrote: "Regarding Joel Silverberg's talk on latitude by double altitudes, I asked the question of how this works on the two days of equinoxes. On these days there will be 12 hours between the zero altitudes of sunrise and sunset at all latitudes. So how could a unique latitude be determined? Perhaps Joel will give us an answer to this." I don't know if Joel is following the list regularly right now, so I hope you don't mind if I address this. Latitude by double altitudes (as originally understood c.1750-1850) is an observation composed of two different altitudes of the same body and the time interval between the sights as recorded by a common watch. Watches sufficient for this purpose were available and commonly carried by officers at sea from the beginning of the 18th century. As an example, on March 25, 2008 I see the Sun low in the east (let's assume it's rather close to true azimuth 90) a little after sunrise. I measure its altitude and get 5� 00'. Exactly thirty minutes later, I measure its altitude again and get 10� 00'. Both altitudes have already been corrected for dip, refraction, etc. What's my latitude? Well, even without calculation you can take a good guess. Obviously if I'm on the equator near the equinox, the Sun would be rising at nearly 15 degrees per hour. If I'm near the pole, the Sun would hardly change its altitude in an hour. Instead, in this case, we're seeing a rate of 5� in half an hour or 10� per hour. Since it's rising more slowly than the equatorial rate, it must be climbing at an angle relative to the horizon, probably close to 45 degrees. And in fact, the instantaneous rate of change of altitude in the general case is just (15�/hour)*cos(Latitude)*sin(Azimuth). This implies that our latitude must be around 48� since the azimuth is near 90�. Notice that it doesn't depend on the length of the day. But there IS a major problem with this method. When the observer is near the equator, the rate of change of altitude is going to be very close to 15� per hour over a wide range of latitudes (near the equinoxes). So "latitude by double altitudes" is not very useful near the equator. Note that I am simplifying here. The actual process for clearing this sight and getting a latitude is more elaborate (see the method in Bowditch which Joel outlined in his talk), primarily because we're looking at the change in altitude over a significant time interval instead of the instantaneous rate, but the principle is basically the same. Also note that we can get a complete position fix from these sights, not just latitude. A 19th century navigator could use either of those altitudes as a "time sight" to get longitude, too, assuming he has access to GMT. Another approach when dealing with these old 19th century methods is to turn them into 20th century equivalents, which are almost always more general. How would I use those two altitudes above with modern sight reduction techniques? Each sight generates an ordinary LOP. If the Sun is near the prime vertical, the LOPs will be running more or less north-south so either one yields a good longitude (that explains the time sight aspect of the 19th century approach). If there is sufficient change in azimuth between the two sights, the LOPs will cross at an angle and we can also get a latitude out of the pair. If we're near the equator, especially when near an equinox, and the Sun is rising on a nearly constant azimuth, we will get only a very small angle between the LOPs even if we wait an hour or more between sights so the ability to fix latitude would be much reduced. And that's really all there is to it. Unfortunately for the progress of navigation, 19th century navigators and mathematicians had a very hard time seeing the advantage of using LOPs as in Sumner's method. They saw it as a "trick" or a cheap substitute for the spherical trigonometry of the double altitude method. -FER --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Navigation List archive: www.fer3.com/arc To post, email NavList@fer3.com To , email NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---