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    Re: Naval Quartermasters and M.M.Officers
    From: Doug Royer
    Date: 2004 Feb 2, 15:09 -0800

    No,I didn't take your comments wrong.I thought them very enlightening and
    truthful.I only included what I wrote to show that on a merchy the personnel
    are less per watch and one cannot concentrate on ones M.O.S. to the
    exclusion of other tasks per watch period.
    I also wanted to convey it is much more personnel and discipline intensive
    to sychronise the movements of many vessels on a close track for extended
    periods.We most definetly don't have to do that.And that is why I said "no
    thanks pal!".
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Navigation Mailing List
    [mailto:NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM]On Behalf Of Stacy Hanna
    Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 14:27
    Subject: Re: Naval Quartermasters and M.M.Officers
    Currently Naval personnel (or Coast Guard for that matter) are not
    required to hold Coast Guard licenses. In fact very few people in the
    Navy would qualify for a Coast Guard license that would enable them to
    stand the same watches on a merchant ship. One of the main reasons for
    this is because we do not meet STCW requirements. The Coast Guard is
    currently reviewing Naval training to determine which of our courses
    should count for equivalency to STCW approved training. For example the
    Coast Guard has determined that Basic Training (boot camp) meets the
    requirements for STCW basic safety, with the exception of exposure suit
    training. Hopefully it won't be long before we can get credit for our
    training and it will be common for Naval personnel to be
    licensed(although legally the crew of a Navy ship still won't be
    required to be licensed).
    I hope you didn't take my comment wrong about QMs going head to head
    with merchant officers. That was in reply to someone who said that the
    Navy had to look to the merchants to find a good navigator. The Merchant
    Marine Academy alumni that I have worked with definitely knew navigation
    and without a doubt were better trained in that area than graduates of
    the Naval Academy or ROTC.
    On a Navy ship the typical bridge watch includes:
    Officer Of Deck (not necessarily an officer, I was qualified on my last
    Junior Officer of the Deck and/or Conning Officer
    Quartermaster of the Watch
    Boatswain's Mate of the Watch
    At least two lookouts
    Phone talker communicating with the lookouts and CIC
    And then we still several guys in CIC (Combat Information Center), who
    are also navigating as a cross-check on the quartermaster and watching
    the radar as a cross-check on the OOD.

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