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    Re: My Absolute Power as NavList Lord and Master!
    From: Bill B
    Date: 2010 Nov 24, 04:00 -0500

    On 11/24/10 2:06 AM, Frank Reed wrote:
    > See?? From thousands of miles away, I CAUSED you all to think of a
    > telescope, probably several in fact. You couldn't help yourself! As soon
    > as you read my words, an image was conjured up in your brains That is
    > the extent of my power over NavList. I can make you think by using words.
    
    I was formerly an active member of the list.  Life circumstances have
    dictated the bulk of my energy be directed to pragmatic issues.
    
    I do continue to "lurk." (Which sounds too much like a "Peeping Tom"-- a
    US of A term for someone hiding in the bushes and watching people
    through windows.) I have interacted on the list with most of the regular
    contributors and have glimpses into more recent contributors (too often
    a use of the word "contributor" I am unfamiliar with) and despite
    personality/philosophical differences have found the exchanges to be
    helpful and good learning experiences.
    
    The current thread distresses me. It is to much like politics
    (especially in the United States for a long while now) where the goal is
    not to improve the nation's condition, but rather to sully the
    opposition to again gain favor/control and screw things up further.
    
    PRAGMATICALLY
    
    You knew this was a moderated group when you joined. What's the gripe?
    Even democratic societies that support free speech draw the line on
    disruptive behavior at some point.
    
    OPINION
    
    I personally could not ask for a better moderator than Frank Reed.  He
    allows the boys to play despite fouls, shrugs off continued personal
    attacks by those that would be alpha dog but lack the credentials, and
    provides scientifically sound answers and rebuttals.
    
    At some point, gross "unsportsmanlike like" conduct must come to an end.
    If I find any fault, Frank has been too lenient.  In the past,
    fouls--intentional or not--have been committed.  To the credit of the
    list members, apologies have been made and fences have been mended.
    Continued flaming is not an option as I see it. Personal attacks are
    unacceptable.
    
    Regarding Frank's assertion, "I can make you think by using words," I
    caution him.  As I posted on 23 June, 2005, "Careful George. 'If you
    make people think they are thinking, they will love you; but if you make
    people really think, they will hate you.'   I do not
    know the source of the quote, but have always liked it and valued people
    who do not resent being made to think."
    
    On the flip side of the coin, be thankful for the burden Frank's
    censorship has lifted from our collective backs.
    
    To quote P. J. O'Rourke, a regular contributor to "National Lampoon" and
    usually regarded as a humorist, "Authority has always attracted the
    lowest elements in the human race. All through history, mankind has been
    bullied by scum. Those who lord it over their fellows and toss commands
    in every direction and would boss the grass in the meadow about which
    way to bend in the wind are the most depraved kind of prostitutes. They
    will submit to any indignity, perform any vile act, do anything to
    achieve power. The worst off-sloughings of the planet are the
    ingredients of sovereignty. Every government is a parliament of wh_res.
    The trouble is, in a democracy the wh_res are us."
    
    Frank's jack-booted hijacking of Douglas Denny's alleged manifesto may
    have denied us our democratic right of censoring him ourselves. Bring it
    on Frank.
    
    I must toddle along now and feed my Sea Monkeys (or brine shrimp as the
    case may be).  If you don't get it, Google it.
    
    Bill B.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

       
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